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From one of your links granny.......Looks like we should stock up on seeds.

The panelists included:

Andrew Kimbrell, Executive Director of the Center for Food Safety

Ignacio Chapela, biologist and professor at UC Berkeley who is a leading academic critic of genetically modified organisms (GMOs)

Fred Kirschenmann, director of the Leopold Center for Sustainable Agriculture

If you haven’t yet seen “The Future of Food,” I urge you to do so. Here are some facts brought to light during the panel discussion that I think are especially important:

* Monsanto, America’s largest seed producer, OWNS 24% of the world’s seeds. Monsanto and three other American corporations OWN 49% of the world’s seeds.

* 15 patents are now pending approval for genetically modified seeds that use “terminator technology.” Such seeds will kill themselves off after each growing season, preventing farmers from saving seeds (yielded from the current crop) for the next planting, which is essential for strong plants and a sustainable ecosystem.

* GMOs (genetically modified organisms) are not required to be labeled as such, thus relinquishing any responsibility of the corporations for health problems of people who consume their products.

* GMOs have been approved for human consumption, even after lab rats who were fed such foods developed major health problems. The health affects on humans is unknown.

* GMOs do not contain more nutrients than other foods, and they do not provide an increase in crop yield. Furthermore, it is impossible to create genetically modified seeds that are immune to all environmental challenges, as seed manufacturers lead us to believe.

* Scientists who challenge the safety of GMOs are often denied funding, or are told to keep quiet about their findings.

* Current GMOs in the United States include: corn, soybeans, canola and cotton.

* THE GOOD NEWS: By law, organic foods cannot be genetically altered.

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I am one who does not approve of the GMO seeds for any purpose.

LOL, I don’t even buy the hybrid seeds, as they also will not stand saving for the next season, or many do not.

Check out posts # 7435-7436-7437, in this thread, my paper note says it is seed links and posts.

If I were making an order today, I would start with Sandhill Presservation, then Nichols in Oregon, Pinetree seeds, which is rare seeds. com, maybe.

Check Richters in Canada, they are a good company and have herbs and old varieties.

Check Thrifty Drug Stores and the Dollar stores, ask if they will have seeds and when, as I suspect they will sell out at once.

Even Walmart some years had the 10 cent packages of seeds some years.

These won’t be 10 cents now, but 25 or 30 cents, well worth it, as they all grew for me and they are mostly the old non-hybrid types........

I have bought from all of the above for many years..

Gurney had good seeds, but lousy live plants, So I quit buying there 20 years ago and don’t know how their seeds are today.

To store the seeds, a tight sealing coffee can and some powdered milk in a coffee filter paper should absorb moisture......maybe a couple of them about 2 inches across, you could tape it or do as I would, put in as much milk powder as it will hold and gather it to seal with a twistem wire.......you know the bag twisters to seal them.

Then seal with sealing tape, or ‘duck’ tape...the coffee can and store in a cool place, that is dry..

I have stayed away from the expensive seed sources, also the fancy, pay a membership to buy seeds places.

Seeds can be sold out, due to so many of us planting them for food.

In WW2, all our cabbage seed went to Russia, sold by the ton.

Much of our seed comes from overseas and that means that they can be withheld from us, if a Soros type of person wanted to hurt us, he would simply buy the company and say that he could not ship the promised seed, due to our restrictions on the disease they had found...on them.

And there is the plain old crop failure and there are no seeds available to sell.......Order early from Sandhill Preservation, as they grow most of the seeds they sell and they are always having crop failures, just as we do in real life.

They say wheat and other grains, tomatoes etc are good for years and that you should not save onion seeds past one year.

I have planted 10 year old onion seeds and they grew, LOL, that was the year of the onion garden.

Figure that you loose about 5 per cent of the seeds per year, so order extra’s, and plant thicker with old seeds.

I am hearing Alex Jones pushing canned seeds on the radio, I didn’t write down the address/url..

I think Walton feed.com sells them and several other dehydrated food shops sell them already canned.

It got to be a big racket before the Y2K/2000 event, they were canning $20.00 worth of seeds and charging $150 to 200. per can..

Yes, I have stored seeds, always have, all my life and save some from the store, no don’t ask why, as they rarely grow and I have grown tomatoes 5 foot tall, that never had a flower on them the entire season, from saved from the store seeds.......beautiful plants, no tomatoes.

One year here, I planted a bunch of big pots of all kinds of oriental greens, all that I did and didn’t know of and when the season was over, saved as many seeds as I could, in a big paper bag, never have had the chance to see what I have saved.

Watch the oriental seeds, as they are now also selling hybrids, which do not grow for us in all this wind and sun.

Save seeds, buy some basic kinds and feel safer than you will if you do not.

* THE GOOD NEWS: By law, organic foods cannot be genetically altered.

Don't count on it!

Pollen from GMO's can and have severely affected Organic seeded plants and many of the Heirloom seeds.

Fortunately all the farmers for over a mile from me all are very cautious to also avoid GMO and particularly the Terminator Gene type. There have been several lawsuits over this -

a group of Saskatchewan organic farmers is now suing Monsanto and Aventis because their fields are literally being invaded by GM canola plants making it impossible for them to sell their crops as non-genetically modified. The European Union strictly prohibits GM canola. Arnold Taylor, president of the Saskatchewan Organic Directorate, told CBC News Online, "Since (the companies) started five, six years ago, it has been virtually impossible to find any seed stock that's uncontaminated."

Then to add insult to injury, Monsanto has been suing for royalties (and winning) over your growing crops infected with their patented Roundup Ready genetically modified strains.

Monsanto vs. Percy Schmeiser was heard in a Canadian court June 5 - 20, 2000. According to reports, Monsanto never directly tried to explain how their genes got into Schmeiser's field. In fact, the Western Producer, a Canadian agriculture magazine, quoted Monsanto attorney, Roger Hughes, as saying, "Whether Mr. Schmeiser knew of the matter or not matters not at all." In other words, Schmeiser's fields were contaminated by Monsanto's GM technology, and it didn't matter if Schmeiser was aware of the contamination or not. They were going to make him pay for it! Percy Schmeiser said, "It was a very frightening thing because they said it does not matter how it gets into a farmer's field; it's their property... if I would go to St. Louis (Monsanto headquarters) and contaminate their plots--destroy what they have worked on for 40 years--I think I would be put in jail and the key thrown away."

On March 29, 2001, nearly three years after the contaminated canola was discovered in Schmeiser's field, Canadian Judge W. Andrew MacKay agreed with Monsanto that it did not matter how its genes got onto Percy Schmeiser's fields; the farmer was still guilty of having them without having paid for the privilege. (You can read the entire decision at http://www.fct-cf.gc.ca ). Sadly, as part of the damages, the farmer also lost 40 years of work improving his own canola seed line, as his crop was confiscated.