I hope you will join in, so that this thread will be useful to us, when we need to find information of all types.
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Hey there Miss Bony Fingers!
You’re doing Fine!
Keep up the Great work!
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Well Goodness Gracious!
I thought you gave up and ended your thread, as I have not recieved any Pings in at least a month or so!
I did a search and see You are still hard at it! Great!
I must have fallen off your pingy thingy... so here’s a BUMP so I can find it again...
BTW Granny, it’s amazing how fortuitous this thread is since you started it! Food and fuel prices have near doubled in that time!
Thanks again for doing this!
JD
Is this still ongoing?
btt to read later...
I WISH I had a backyard big enough to garden. Also, I have terrible quality dirt too, I think its called Pan?
My parents, with 7 kids, had a huge family garden. We grew 15-20 different vegetables, including beans, peas, corn, potatoes, peanuts, onions, radishes, carrots, squash, pumpkin, cabbages, lettuce, tomatoes — and those are just the ones I remember.
Mother “put up” tons of stuff for us to use all winter.
But boy, did I hate weeding that garden!
BTTT.
Survival Diet For Pennies
Having enough food to survive any disaster situation is much easier than many would have you believe. Most notably the people that run websites and advertise on the radio selling survivalist packages which contain pre-packaged food. They charge hundreds or thousands of dollars for these packages and it’s simply not needed if we are in fact talking about “surviving”.
Being involved in powerlifting for many years I’ve built up an extensive list of items that are useful to me for various reasons; gaining weight usually. It’s easy to pick out a few that would be most convenient and most valuable to me in an emergency.
Firstly, to survive, one only needs ~500 calories; assuming you’re waiting for the crisis to be over and not hunting for food or otherwise being active. If you do need to be mobile and ready to act for whatever reason, the general rule is ~1350 calories for a grown man and ~1000 for a woman.
You don’t need anything fancy and you don’t even need to be all that nutritious either as a bare minimum. Even for extended periods the human body is quite amazing at utilizing what little value food contains.
Meal 1 -
[1 Cup] Rice - 250 Cal / 45g Carbs / 5g Pro / 2g Fat
[2 Tablespoons] Peanut Butter - 200 Cal / 16g Fat / 8g Pro
[35g Serving] - Protein Isolate Powder 31g Pro / 130 Cal
580 Calories / 45g Carbs / 44g Protein / 18g Fat
Meal 2 -
[1 Cup] Rice - 250 Cal / 45g Carbs / 5g Pro / 2g Fat
[2 Tablespoon] Flaxseed Oil - 240 Cal / 28g Fat / 4g Saturated Fats
[35g Serving] - Protein Isolate Powder 31g Pro / 130 Cal
620 Calories / 45g Carbs / 36g Protein / 34g Fat
Total: 1200 Calories / 90g Protein / 80g Carbs / 52g Fat
Two tablespoons of PB contains about 8 grams of protein/200 calories, the same protein as 1oz of turkey. Keeping some nuts somewhere where they will stay fresh is a good idea too, my personal favorite are pecans because they are so loaded with good stuff (maybe not if you’re trying to lose weight lol). [1 Cup] Pecans - 850 Cals / 85g Fat / 16g Carbs / 12g Pro. You could eat just 1 cup of pecans and live to see another day with no trouble if need be
Another great idea is keeping some high grade whey isolate protein powder on hand. My personal choice is Bio-X Xtreme Power Whey Isolate. This brand is exceptionally easy to mix so you don’t need to worry about a blender when there’s no power. There’s 65 servings in a 5lb bucket, that’s a 1 month supply of protein for your survival diet, plus it (almost) never goes bad.
Flaxseed oil is a cheap, quick and easy way to get yourself some high quality fats that your body needs. Usually you get them from a variety of foods but in a situation where practicality takes priority over taste and preference, nothing is more concentrated. A few tablespoons in your protein drink and you can’t even taste it. Flax is also good for cleaning out the ol bowels and when you’re running from a legion of undead zombies the last thing you want to worry about is crapping your pants with 3 weeks worth of backed up food... Well I’d be concerned about it
Nothing I can think of is a cheaper source of complex carbs than rice (brown = best), as long as it’s not highly processed and refined. The secret is to not overcook it or you will remove all the nutrients. In a survival situation, even leaving it on the hard side when cooking is best to retain as much as possible. Pick up a massive 50kg bag from Costco or Sams for nothin.
Finally, since fruits and veggies are impractical unless you grow your own, you will need a good multivitamin to stay healthy since the foods I listed are pretty weak in that respect; you would likely get scurvy quite quickly (YAR!). Also pickup some stand alone Vit C chewables, there’s not enough in the multi’s to protect from scurvy when you have no other natural Vit C source. You can buy tubs of 1000+ for like 10 dollars at Costco.
Well there you have it. All that is needed to prepare any of this is a pot for the rice, doesn’t get any simpler or cheaper folks. Plus, now you don’t have to kill and eat your neighbor; tell him he owes me one.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread393772/pg1
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Bookmarked.
You have done such a huge amount of work on this thread, I can only cut and paste the other stuff!
100 Items to Disappear First
1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won’t heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {”Strike Anywhere” preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, “No. 76 Dietz” Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men’s Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens
Great idea for a thread!
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Since my husband is in construction and frequently out of work, especially in the winter months, I stock up every fall to some degree. Lately, I’ve been doing this more extensively. One thing I’ve done differently this year is that I’ve learned how to can chicken and whenever I find skinless, boneless chicken breast on sale I buy a few pounds and can it. It is really good to use for chicken and dumplings and soup and other recipes. I canned some last night in 4 oz jars to pack in my husbands lunch box to keep him off of the bologna sandwiches. It is really easy to do if you have a pressure canner: raw pack with 1 teas. salt per quart @ 10 lbs. pressure for 90 minutes for qrts. 75 min. for pints. The first time I tried this it took a long time for me to get up the nerve to open a jar. I was afraid something went wrong and it would be weird or nasty. Well, I opened the jar, took a whiff and thought - this really smells good. It was really good, a pleasant surprise. If you invest in a good pressure canner and canning supplies you can have a backup plan to save your food if your freezer is not working for whatever reason. If you have a wood stove as well, you can use it to heat your canner in case of electrical failure. I believe in being as self-sufficient as possible. Every little thing that you can do yourself will help you in the long run. It’s not kooky or crazy. Just common sense.
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