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Angry Vista users vent over SP1 driver issues
InfoWorld ^ | 21 March 2008 | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 03/22/2008 1:26:37 PM PDT by ShadowAce

Confused and angry users are blasting Microsoft on its own Vista blog over the requirements for downloading SP1 (Service Pack 1). And an industry analyst feels their pain.

Last Tuesday, Microsoft released Vista SP1 to Windows Update, giving most users their first shot at obtaining the service pack. Previously, only earlier testers, volume licensing customers, and IT professionals and developers who subscribed to TechNet or Microsoft Developer Network had access to SP1.

But as it added Vista SP1 to Windows Update, Microsoft also spelled out numerous caveats, telling users that there are as many as eight different reasons why they might not find the update in the Windows Update listing on their PC. Among those reasons: any of 31 language packs, earlier installed versions of SP1, various prerequisite updates, and a number of device drivers.

The service pack is being withheld from machines containing one or more of the listed drivers because, as Microsoft put it in a support document, "these device drivers are problematic on Windows Vista-based computers when you update to Windows Vista SP1."

That made an industry analyst wonder about Microsoft's driver testing process. "When Microsoft said there were problems with drivers, I assumed it was some odd scanner or camera or an ancient printer or something," said Michael Cherry, analyst with Directions on Microsoft, a Kirkland, Wash.-based research firm. "But then I saw the list. It makes me wonder what's going on with device driver testing.

"Microsoft keeps saying that there's this vast ecosystem of device drivers, but it appears there's a much smaller number of reliable, well-tested drivers. Because if these drivers [on Microsoft's list] were tested, that calls into question the testing process."

In fact, many of the complaints posted in comments to Microsoft's Vista blog were related to drivers. For example, one user tried to plumb the depths of his PC to determine why Windows Update suppressed the service pack, but gave up.

"I'm not being offered Vista SP1 on my new Dell XPS M1530 laptop. As far as I can tell, I have two pieces of hardware in the problem list, but the driver versions I have seem to be OK," said "markheath," on the Microsoft blog. "So my question is, is there any way of finding out exactly what is stopping me from being shown SP1 via Windows Update? I'm tired of looking at driver versions."

Others were upset at being forced to root through their PCs to find out why they couldn't update. "I have just spent 1-2 hrs figuring out that I have one of the problem drivers hence why windows update isn't offering me SP1," said someone pegged as "scoobie" on the same blog. "Neither is it offering me an updated new driver. In my book that is not a good customer experience and a bit of a waste of my time."

But there were still others who, after identifying a blocking driver, wondered where to point fingers. "I have SigmaTel audio drivers that are in conflict with SP1. Therefore, SP1 is not available to me via Windows Update," said "Fatalah" on the Vista blog. "SigmaTel was purchased by another company, and driver updates are solely in the hands of OEMs now (Gateway, Dell, HP etc.) I do not expect Gateway to update this driver any time soon. When will SP1 be fixed to work with my old SigmaTel drivers?"

Another user, simply dubbed "Russieb," seconded the motion. "No one seems to be addressing the 'problem' drivers, specifically SigmaTel. As Fatalah mentioned any SigmaTel 'driver updates are solely in the hands of OEM's now.' [In my case] Sony don't [sic] want to know, neither do [sic] Microsoft! This is stopping a large number of users from installing SP1. Can anyone help?"

Cherry felt their pain. "I assumed in February that the drivers would be for an obscure bunch of peripherals, not drivers with this kind of usage."

To Microsoft's credit, the company has offered free support to any user with Vista SP1 issues. In several messages posted to the same comment thread as user complaints, Brandon LeBlanc, who identified himself as a Microsoft employee, directed people to the free support Web site.

"You have a variety of options you can choose for support -- all of which will NOT cost you any support fee," said LeBlanc. "I repeat: support for SP1 will NOT cost you anything -- as long as you choose the correct option for support."


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; sp1; vista
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1 posted on 03/22/2008 1:26:40 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

2 posted on 03/22/2008 1:26:56 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Yeah, well. I’ll be staying with XP, thanks.


3 posted on 03/22/2008 1:34:05 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: ShadowAce
How nice...


4 posted on 03/22/2008 1:36:35 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: ShadowAce

Bill Gates hit the iceberg.


5 posted on 03/22/2008 1:38:17 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Never accept the mark of the Hillary beast)
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6 posted on 03/22/2008 1:41:39 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Genau


7 posted on 03/22/2008 1:43:49 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: ShadowAce

Microsoft really screwed the pooch with Vista. I guess this PROVES that we need more H1B visas, right? Or were those the folks that messed this up in the first place?


8 posted on 03/22/2008 1:56:07 PM PDT by 43north (I hope we are around long enough to become a layer in the rocks of the future.)
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To: 43north

The more I read about Vista, the more I believe the theory that Vista is meant to get people onto Windows 7 as fast as possible when it comes out—just like ME got people off of Windows 98 and its codebase.


9 posted on 03/22/2008 2:05:45 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Anyone who buys a PC nowdays that does not have 100% Vist-compatible hardware is asking for trouble. I built my latest PC, and have had NO TROUBLE with hardware OR drivers. But I’m not quite sure I’m ready to install SP1 yet ... :)


10 posted on 03/22/2008 2:29:04 PM PDT by LiberConservative (Typical white honky.)
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It’s a pity they didn’t just keep on improving W2K. I still use it in my image-processing computer and it works very well. But it’s my last MS OS.


11 posted on 03/22/2008 2:31:35 PM PDT by Grut
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Yeah, well. I’ll be staying with XP, thanks.

Second that! We're taking such a wide berth around the mucky oil spill that is Visduh that we just bought two new machines with XP factory installed.

12 posted on 03/22/2008 2:35:12 PM PDT by webschooner (A Conservative voting for Juan McCain is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: bmwcyle
Bill Gates hit the iceberg.

"Vista":


13 posted on 03/22/2008 3:03:04 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Grut
It’s a pity they didn’t just keep on improving W2K. I still use it in my image-processing computer and it works very well. But it’s my last MS OS.

I feel the same way- dam, I hate to have to teach myself another OS, but I figure when Win2K gets too long in the tooth, we will switch all the home machines to Linux.

14 posted on 03/22/2008 3:48:05 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: ShadowAce
I am still running Windows XP Pro and was able to download the SP1 without any problems. It is a stand-alone .exe file that can be burned onto a CD. I got it just in case of a weak moment when I wanted to try Vista on one of my computers that works fine with Windows XP Pro. Does anyone have anything good to say about Vista after SP1?

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

15 posted on 03/22/2008 5:46:16 PM PDT by Varmint Al
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Does anyone have anything good to say about Vista after SP1?

Only in the limited instances outlined in this article. If I were you, though, I would not go to Vista if your computer is currently working. There is no reason to change the OS if you are not having any issues.

16 posted on 03/22/2008 6:20:16 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Steely Tom

Agreed, I have XP and 2000. Work fine for me.


17 posted on 03/22/2008 6:25:44 PM PDT by pctech
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To: ShadowAce

18 posted on 03/23/2008 1:30:53 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Swordmaker
"I have just spent 1-2 hrs figuring out that I have one of the problem drivers hence why windows update isn't offering me SP1,"

You'll like this. PING

19 posted on 03/23/2008 5:10:30 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: LiberConservative

Daughter in law won a new laptop complete with Vista.Having a low budget and wanting a laptop,she was willing to sell.[Around 600 bucks].I was initially interested,but the Windows Vista that came with it turned me off.My offer,400 bucks.She said she had offers for such and such,whereby I decided,Nah.
She sold it for 200 bucks and was glad to get that.{Of course she wanted me to believe she got 700 bucks!!I knew the person who bought it and hates vista and will forever!Boy,did I dodge a bullet!


20 posted on 03/23/2008 11:46:42 AM PDT by xarmydog
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