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Freep a Poll! (ok for guns in car at work? Florida)
www.news4jax.com ^ | 3-20-08 | news4jax

Posted on 03/20/2008 2:43:01 PM PDT by dynachrome

Should the legislature pass a bill allowing employees to keep a gun in their vehicle on company property?

Yes, it's their constitutional right to bear arms.

Only if the employee has a permit to carry a gun.

No. It's the employer’s right to set the rules on company property.

I see both sides and haven't decided.


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If it's in my vehicle, the company has no business what is in there, except under the probable cause rules.
1 posted on 03/20/2008 2:43:02 PM PDT by dynachrome
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2 posted on 03/20/2008 2:44:32 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: dynachrome
FReeped.

Current results...

Choice Votes Percentage of 1596 Votes

Yes, it's their constitutional right to bear arms. 857... 54%

Only if the employee has a permit to carry a gun. 366 ...23%

No. It's the employer’s right to set the rules on company property. 317 ... 20%

I see both sides and haven't decided. 56 ... 4%

3 posted on 03/20/2008 2:47:58 PM PDT by Thunder Pig (Sometimes you have to roll the hard six. ---Cmdr Wm Adama)
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To: dynachrome

This obviously would discriminate against people who use public transit or ride bikes. (/sarc)


4 posted on 03/20/2008 2:48:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: dynachrome
"We had an incident with an employee bringing a gun to work, which frightened everybody," said Vince Ferrigno, who owns a small manufacturing firm

(banging head on desk) It frightened them because they were unprotected!
5 posted on 03/20/2008 2:48:56 PM PDT by Arkancide (www.arkancide.com)
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To: dynachrome
If it's in my vehicle, the company has no business what is in there, except under the probable cause rules.

Right. Your boss has no more right to search your glove box in your car parked on his property than you have to search through his wallet in his pocket if he's standing in your front yard.

6 posted on 03/20/2008 2:49:21 PM PDT by epow (The scriptures teach that rulers should be men who rule in the fear of God, - Noah Webster, ca 1823))
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To: dynachrome

Private property owners have control over what happens on their property. We shouldn’t diminish property rights even if the property is owned by a business. Better solution, go to work for a company that explicitly allows it.


7 posted on 03/20/2008 2:49:45 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: dynachrome
I worked for years where guns were not allowed on company property, they never knew about the one's in my car and I never told.

My boss and I would sometimes leave from work to go hunting.

That said, Big Brother (a company or otherwise) can kiss my can.

8 posted on 03/20/2008 2:50:33 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: dynachrome

This is a tough one. While the car is your property, you are bringing it on someone else’s property. I believe, if we wanted to just deal with the property right theory of this, the business owner does have the right to say what can or cannot happen on his property.


9 posted on 03/20/2008 2:51:49 PM PDT by mnehring (So you think that money is the root of all evil. Have you ever asked what is the root of all money)
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To: dynachrome
If it's in my vehicle, the company has no business what is in there, except under the probable cause rules.

Don't companies have property rights?

Why the next thing one might see is something ridiculous like a property owner not being able to decide if another legal pastime is allowed or not on his property, like tobacco or or something.

Oh, wait a minute....

10 posted on 03/20/2008 2:52:09 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Arkancide
(banging head on desk) It frightened them because they [realized] they were unprotected [sheeple]!
11 posted on 03/20/2008 2:52:29 PM PDT by xcamel (fairtaxers -- don't debate, Denigrate!)
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To: rednesss

The vehicle is my property. I can have all sorts of stuff against company rules in my car that my employer will know nothing about unless I remove them from said vehicle.

(company rules prohibit racist stuff on the property where I work. Maybe I ought to bring in “Rev.” Wright’s alleged sermons and test that rule out!)


12 posted on 03/20/2008 2:53:41 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: mnehrling
This is a tough one.

...the business owner does have the right to say what can or cannot happen on his property.

Doesn't seem too tough to me. ; )

13 posted on 03/20/2008 2:55:13 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: dynachrome

Codifying it in state statute is an entirely different thing to “don’t ask, don’t tell”.


14 posted on 03/20/2008 2:56:07 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: dynachrome
I can have all sorts of stuff against company rules in my car that my employer will know nothing about unless I remove them from said vehicle.

Don't ask, don't tell appears to be a politically correct way of handling a situation such as this.

15 posted on 03/20/2008 2:57:09 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: rednesss

I think the problems have come from fellow employees freaking out if they happen to see a rifle in the trunk of your car or a pistol in your glovebox while you are retrieving another item.


16 posted on 03/20/2008 2:58:20 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Arkancide
It frightened them because they were unprotected!

They were frightened because they drank the cool aid and consider guns to be evil.

17 posted on 03/20/2008 3:00:43 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: dynachrome
...if they happen to see a rifle in the trunk of your car or a pistol in your glovebox while you are retrieving another item.

Busybodies...

18 posted on 03/20/2008 3:04:32 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: dynachrome
I knew someone in this situation.

The company has a no weapons on company property policy,along with,no alcohol,drugs,etc. posted all over,in the bathroom even.

His truck was stolen out of the company parking lot while he was working.

In the process of filing an insurance claim he listed a handgun that was in the truck,all legal,he was fired.

Guess my advice would be, if you know the company policy,don't list the gun that was stolen,along with your truck,on the insurance form.

Never had to worry about a company searching my car.

19 posted on 03/20/2008 3:05:15 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: mnehrling

I don’t think the business property rights extend into the car, overriding the employee’s property rights. Those two sets of rights are in competition, and both have to be considered.

Like somebody else said, if my boss comes to my house for dinner, I don’t have a right to rummage through his car merely because he’s parked it in my driveway. It’s still his car.

By providing a parking lot, you’re giving permission for employees to put their property there, but can make no demands of the contents. I think.


20 posted on 03/20/2008 3:05:51 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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