Posted on 03/14/2008 8:13:49 PM PDT by EveningStar
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In other news Francisco Franco is still dead.
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He’s a moonbat lefty, but I have to give him credit: “Repent, Harlequin, Said the Ticktockman” is a libertarian classic and deserves a place in the library of every free person.
gee I thought this was a Howard Dean thread.
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Have you seen any of the images of him copping a feel of the writer Connie Willis at a Hugo awards? He looks like a wheezy bulldyke overdue for a wheelchair.
When I was young, I read a few of his stories, and liked the “Glass Teat” books. Now that I’m older, he’s highly over-rated.
I heard about this, of course. I thought he was brilliant in literature, but a total freak otherwise.
In my experience, his most intense fans are, not surprisingly, unrepentant 1960s radicals.
You're right about his fans. It's been a long time ago, but I once happened across his web site, and some of the people there are wince-evoking fanbois. You could almost smell their pheromones.
I met him when he gave a talk at a local college. Very voluble and filled with stories about all those ‘damn Hollywood phonies’ who have ripped him off (James Cameron, Gene Roddenberry).
LOL Priceless!
And no matter what the aging Queen says, his Trek script wasn't that great, (yet neither was the final version, for that matter. I've always thought "Forever" was highly over-rated).
I freely admit that back in the days of the Tomorrow show, (from it's debut in '73 up until NBC fubar'ed it with Rona Barrett), Ellison was always one of the best recurring guests.
He’s made a point of NOT reading anything that fans have written and submitted directly to him, simply to be sure that he’s not sued for “stealing” their stories. He’ll return manuscripts unopened.
But you’re right, he can be a jerk. But he’s also a brilliant short story author, and quite possibly one of the greatest editors of short stories of the last few decades. If not for his “Dangerous Visions” anthologies, I would have never heard of (those who have become) some of my favorite authors.
He’s also quite unabashedly hard left. But he can also be brutal to those he normally supports as well. And I don’t think that anyone’s ever written better on the Kitty Genovese murder that Harlan Ellison.
Mark
The few times I've seen him in discussions, he could really be quite a brilliant conversationalist. But he can also be such an ass.
I hadn't seen a recent photo of him in nearly 20 years, when I last saw him in person (1987, at a NYC comic/sci-fi convention) when he kept ranting and raving about "She Hulk." lol. He was great at that convention. But when I saw the photo posted earlier in this thread... Damn! The last 20 years haven't been very good to him.
As I said in an earlier post, I think that he's a good writer, but his real strength is as an editor.
Mark
banglist related.
“Dangerous Visions”
Had some creepy stuff — I’ll give him that.
Probably the creepiest was the short story advocating father/daughter incest — yuck!
Aging Queen? You do know he’s straight right? Anyway he also memorably sued James Cameron for ripping off an Outer Limits episode he wrote for the The Terminator. All home video copies of it end with the credit ‘Inspired by the work of Harlan Ellison’.
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