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2008 Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Inductees
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Posted on 03/10/2008 6:23:38 AM PDT by period end of story

On the surface to a casual observer the 2008 Rock 'n' Roll Hall Of Fame class appears to be fairly strong and rather non-controversial. Three of the five artists being enshrined in the main performer category are very well deserving, including one of the most dominant artists in rock history. They also have seen fit to give overdue recognition to some long eligible figures in other categories and so on the whole this year's inductees are a solid group deserving of their honors.

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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: johnmellencamp; leonardcohen; madonn; madonna; rocknroll; thedaveclarkfive; theventures
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To: Chunga

You are wrong about DC5.

Clearly, you are delusional about your grasp of rock music history.

Take down the Monkees’ posters from your room and get out of the house. Hey, hey.


81 posted on 03/10/2008 9:09:34 AM PDT by BunkDetector
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

The Astronauts were better than the Ventures ever hoped to be.


82 posted on 03/10/2008 9:12:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus on global warming skeptics: "a whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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To: BunkDetector
Clearly, you either weren't alive during the British Invasion and have no grasp of what was happening at the time or you're too stupid to post on a thread about rock 'n' roll.

The DC5 fell into the "good" camp with the Beatles, The Animals and The Rolling Stones. They were light years better, and they rocked ten times harder, than Herman's Hermits, Gerry and the Pacemakers, The Searchers, Freddie And The Dreamers, Chad and Jeremy and the rest of the teenybopper groups.

Including the Monkees in a discussion about the DC5 reeks of ignorance.

83 posted on 03/10/2008 9:20:44 AM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: period end of story

It never ceases to amaze me how low they set the bar for the Rock ‘n’ Roll HOF. I guess it just proves that long-term use of drugs does cause brain damage.


84 posted on 03/10/2008 9:35:19 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: period end of story

Leonard Cohen is a very cool choice.


85 posted on 03/10/2008 9:36:27 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Chunga

My mistake.

Your preposterous assertions are the results of bad taste rather than bad history.


86 posted on 03/10/2008 9:40:28 AM PDT by BunkDetector
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To: USS Alaska

He’s in the airline hall of fame band, with Buddy Holly and the rest.


87 posted on 03/10/2008 10:13:23 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Fresh Wind; Clemenza; Walmartian
Semi Mosely made a neat guitar for Barbara Mandrell when she was recovering from a devastating car wreck...a sense of humor...made a guitar from a walking cane. I had a Ventures model sunburst 1967 Mosrite at one time...was real heavy so I went back to the Strat. Nokie Edwards taught a guitar clinic at the Chet Atkins Appreciation Society that was worth every minute of it. The Astronauts covered Hoyt Axton’s “Green Back Dollar” in a R&R format...more hard electric chords than the Kingston Trio's version. I thought they did a credible job of redoing the song. Dave Clark produced and wrote songs for Freddy Mercury of which two went Platinum. The DC5 had over 50 songs that charted top 50 or better. Several groups took what the DC5 did and improvised and wrote songs like them...ie..”Inside and Out” by the DC5 sounds like and predates the Beatles “I am The Walrus” by two years. It is uncontroverted that Lennon borrowed some of the DC5 ideas. To disparage the DC5 shows that one doesn't know all of the facts about the DC5 and welcome them to the R&R Hall of fame....now where is Johnny Rivers?
88 posted on 03/10/2008 10:28:45 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Revolting cat!
I think the body of work the Ventures did qualifies them into the R&R HOF. Now Dick Dale and Davie Allen and the Arrows may get some long deserved recognition since most have no idea who Dale and Allen were.

Someone that recently passed away IMO deserves in the HOF. John Stewart came up from the Folk scene as a songwriter, then performer with the Kingston Trio, and later on his own with a #2 top 40 song "Gold" in 1979-1980. His songs were recorded by the Lovin' Spoonful, the Monkees, Rosanne Cash and a number of other performers. Stewart was well respected by the members of the Byrds, Moby Grape, and the Grateful Dead. Stewart passed away Jan 18 this last year. I think the HOF should consider the body of work...not body (Madonna's Ass et)...of the performers and what contributions they made to R&R.

89 posted on 03/10/2008 10:53:14 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Clemenza

I’m sure that, with all the surgery she’s had, she had them throw in one of those rejuvenations that have been on the news.


90 posted on 03/10/2008 10:58:46 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: vetvetdoug
The Ventures have been terrible hacks, recording instrumental versions of every schlocky pop hit, in addition to stealing surfing originals from other, less prominent groups. Nevertheless, they have had their moments, true, and I suppose they belong in this Hall.

That said, who's to say who does and doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It is a commercial venture, not the one and only Catholic Church. You and I could establish a competing Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame and induct in it Bobby Rydell and Terry Jacks. Who's to stop us? It's such an artificial creature as to be laughable from the getgo, I'm afraid. I don't recognize it as any sort of authority on the history of rock'n'roll.

91 posted on 03/10/2008 11:31:06 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Huck

I don’t know, its just what I read. But thanks for the info on The Dead, I didn’t know that. Pandy


92 posted on 03/10/2008 11:53:37 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot......OUT)
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To: Huck; Clemenza

Musical opinion is a toughie. Generally there are absolutes in opinion that are non-changeable between people.

I grew up in a musical household, learned to play a variety of instruments and listened to a lot of music. I grew to enjoy Yes early on (early 70’s) and have never lost that admiration. They display a depth of harmony, chordal variation, interesting meter and individual virtuosity that few other bands have ever approached. I would encourage you to go back and listen to the tunes of theirs that are not played on the radio. Rhino Records has re-issued quite a bit of the Yes catalog, and they have done an outstanding job.

Of course, a keyboardist I know tends to growl “Use your left hand” anytime he hears Wakeman play.

Rush is made up of virtuoso talent as well. Neil Peart recently hosted and was the feature player at the Tribute to Buddy Rich. Geddy Lee is among the better bassists both from a technical and performance standpoint and Alex Lifeson, while not a showy player, is a master at interesting chordal structures and layering that few other guitarists can even come close to.

I strongly recommend listening to their latest recording, Snakes and Arrows. It is not sterile by any stretch!

Cheers!


93 posted on 03/10/2008 12:08:13 PM PDT by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: BrewingFrog

heythere...well, in a rock band, keyboardists need to lay off the left hand or else clash with the bassist.

geddy lee is technically proficient on the bass as far as speed/dexterity is concerned, and can certainly handle time changes, odd times, etc.

all the players are proficient at their instruments. as a band, they have a loyal following and a long career. But hall of fame? nope.


94 posted on 03/10/2008 1:09:30 PM PDT by Huck (Support OBAMA in 08--He's a better choice than McCain! Ask any conservative!)
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To: BrewingFrog

To be sure, Rush did go through a longish period there, where their music had largely become rather boring techno-synth stuff. Power Windows, Hold Your Fire, Presto, Roll the Bones, Counterparts, and Test for Echo, while each containing a couple of worthy tracks, were rather weak in my opinion. I wouldn’t include Grace Under Pressure with those - in my opinion it was quite strong, although nostalgia might be colouring my feelings about it.

Vapour Trails, OTOH, was quite good in my opinion, and Snakes and Arrows is excellent. I was fairly amazed at the S&A concert I attended in October to see that the acoustic instrumental tune from that album was played (almost?) entirely by Alex alone. No, he’s not one of those flashy “notes per second” players, but he has great tone and is quite technically proficient.

I really don’t care if Rush gets in the HOF or not, but inducting Madonna is an absolute joke - what kind of music did she ever do that you could apply the words “rock” or “rock and roll” to? Pop, all the way.


95 posted on 03/10/2008 1:12:49 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: 230FMJ

>>“Perfidia” has lasted the longest to my ear.

Maybe because it was some 20 years old before they recorded it?


96 posted on 03/10/2008 1:32:00 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: Clemenza

Did they own guitars? (Or did they know anybody whom owned a guitar?) This seems to be the only qualification. Hmmm. What about Jack Kerouac?


97 posted on 03/10/2008 2:06:48 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Betis70

>>“Perfidia” has lasted the longest to my ear.

Maybe because it was some 20 years old before they recorded it?<<

Actually, it was the sound of the lead guitar that endeared it to me.

I’ve owned Strats, Jazzmasters, ES335’s and a ‘66 Moserite. Might be some connection.


98 posted on 03/10/2008 2:11:02 PM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: musicman
Ummmm...in SOME states.

Alaska, Montana...maybe.

99 posted on 03/10/2008 2:11:36 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Clemenza

Was it the Contours who did the original version of “Do You Love Me?”? All subsequent covers faded in comparison. Don’t really begrudge the DC5, though. Madonna I begrudge big time; she’s lowered the bar to the ground. Ventures Rock!!!


100 posted on 03/10/2008 2:12:38 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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