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How open source has influenced Windows Server 2008(admitting that FOSS works)
Technet ^ | February 27th | Sam Ramji

Posted on 03/02/2008 3:05:56 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

When I think about what works really well in open source development and technology, the following things stand out: Modular architectures, Programming language agnostic, Feedback-driven development, Built-for-purpose systems, Sysadmins who write code, and Standards-based communication.

(Excerpt) Read more at port25.technet.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: foss; linux; oss; windows
In other words, the linux way is better so we copied it.

Linux/FOSS has now officially become apple. *sarcasm*

1 posted on 03/02/2008 3:05:58 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; ShadowAce; Swordmaker
From the comments section:
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

~ Henry Spencer

The MS blog-author's protest that Microsoft does understand Unix by mentioning SysVR4, Sequent, VMS, and MVS, is pathetic. Sure those were and remain great and fundamental technologies, but the real development is being done these days on NEW things (like hyperthreaded multi-core support to name only one) where there's still a lot to be learned.

Microsoft lost their claim to anything UNIX when they sold XENIX and bought Seattle Computer's QDOS (Quick-n-Dirty Operating System), crossed out "QDOS" and wrote in "MS-DOS" in crayon.

Microsoft still believes Open Source is a "cancer", to quote Mr. Steve "Chairs" Ballmer. This is just their latest maneuver towards Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

Tech pings...?

2 posted on 03/02/2008 3:41:05 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86-DOS


3 posted on 03/02/2008 5:22:58 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Juan Hernandez = Mexico First, therefore McCain = Mexico First. There's no way I can vote McCain.)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

4 posted on 03/02/2008 5:38:24 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
ksh -vx $APPHOME/microsoftsucks.sh > GIGO.out
5 posted on 03/02/2008 5:39:16 AM PST by skully (Conservatives...carrying the GOP since 1980)
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To: skully

LOL


6 posted on 03/02/2008 5:45:49 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Someone needs to ask McCain about the rape trees and about those missing people from Laredo, Texas!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
being a UNIX geek, I just couldn’t help myself
7 posted on 03/02/2008 6:03:00 AM PST by skully (Conservatives...carrying the GOP since 1980)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
In other words, the linux way is better so we copied it.

Whatever it copied, 2008 Server looks to be pretty good -- ain't competition great?

8 posted on 03/02/2008 10:39:46 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: dayglored

Don’t take it personal. It’s “only business”. /sarc


9 posted on 03/02/2008 12:16:33 PM PST by papasmurf (I'm not worried anymore. I read Obama's "Blueprint for Change".)
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> Don’t take it personal. It’s “only business”. /sarc

Having programmed since 1971 or so, and being "in the business" since the KIM-1 came out in the mid-70's, it's hard not to get annoyed at such crap. They seem to think that everybody was born yesterday.

To be honest, I would have far less objection to the way Microsoft goes about their business, if they would just own up to it:

"Yeah, we still have every intention of crushing Linux into the dirt, except for those aspects which we are currently copying, and which we'll later slowly change, just enough that everyone has to migrate exclusively to our products."
Then at least I'd have some respect for their honesty. As it is, when it comes to their business practices, they are lying sacks of sh!t, and nothing more. I have no respect whatsoever for their marketing or management.

Nor (as of Vista) for their technical work. Let us hope that Windows7 allows them to regain some forward momentum and pull themselves out of the pile of crap they've been lying in for the past five or so years.

10 posted on 03/02/2008 1:26:11 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Ya’ know, they used to be good.

They protected my investment in my software purchases. They protected my privacy. They protected my data. They had a lifetime customer. I was theirs to lose.

Did I tell you how much I enjoy learning to use Linux/Ubuntu? LOL


11 posted on 03/02/2008 3:54:46 PM PST by papasmurf (I'm not worried anymore. I read Obama's "Blueprint for Change".)
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To: papasmurf
> Ya’ know, they used to be good.

Their developers (developers, developers, developers) are a pretty smart bunch. Their main problems technically have been from mismanagement of the technical resources. I know some programmers who worked for Microsoft, and they're good.

> They protected my investment in my software purchases.

Back-compatibility was always DOS'/Windows' strong point. Of course, that was one thing they intentionally blew with Vista. Stupid...

> They protected my privacy.

They blew that with WGA, DRM, phone-home applications, and the myriad backround processes that send your private data back to Microsoft Central for examination.

> They protected my data.

Except when they lost it in a blue-screen or "FAT-event" ;-)

> They had a lifetime customer. I was theirs to lose.

... and ...

> Did I tell you how much I enjoy learning to use Linux/Ubuntu? LOL

Welcome to the club. Though I'm more of a Mac/NetBSD/Fedora fan. And to be fair, I still use Windows plenty, mainly at work since my central desktop is XP-Pro. But my work laptop is a MacBook, and all my home machines are Macs, with VMware Fusion virtuals for the WinXP, Win98, MSDOS, NetBSD, and Fedora machines. Adding a (shudder) Vista VM tonight, since I have users switching to Vista I'll have to support.

Microsoft praising Open Source... uh, huh. "It's a trap!" ;-)

12 posted on 03/02/2008 4:07:15 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

I’m using VirtualBox on Ubuntu. However, that’s still not enough for some apps on a Tablet PC.

I’m trying, unsuccessfully so far, to create a “raw” partition for my VirtualBox/Tablet PC OS. That’ll give my “virtual” Tablet PC direct access to the BIOS and hardware.


13 posted on 03/02/2008 4:28:31 PM PST by papasmurf (I'm not worried anymore. I read Obama's "Blueprint for Change".)
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To: papasmurf
> I’m using VirtualBox on Ubuntu. However, that’s still not enough for some apps on a Tablet PC. I’m trying, unsuccessfully so far, to create a “raw” partition for my VirtualBox/Tablet PC OS. That’ll give my “virtual” Tablet PC direct access to the BIOS and hardware.

Interesting. I haven't played with VirtualBox (yet), as VMware's offerings for Mac, Windows, and Linux have covered my needs so far. But even so, getting really solid BIOS/hardware access is problematic with any virtualization.

"How can you be in two places at once, when you're not anywhere at all?"

-- Firesign Theatre

That said, best of luck!!
14 posted on 03/02/2008 4:47:54 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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