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'John Adams' doesn't go Hollywood (Looks like an excellent HBO series next month)
Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | Feb 24, 2008 | Bill Steigerwald, David McCullough

Posted on 02/24/2008 11:48:31 AM PST by dickmc

When Hollywood's movie-makers and docu-dramatists get their hands on American history, accuracy, reality and truth often are tortured beyond recognition. But starting at 8 p.m. Sunday, March 16, HBO Films will be delivering the seven-part, nine-hour mini-series "John Adams." ... it is by all accounts a high-quality, historically accurate and meticulously faithful adaptation of super-historian David McCullough's blockbuster 2001 book of the same name. I talked to McCullough about the making of the HBO series Tuesday by phone from his home in West Tisbury, Mass.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: adams; book; documentary; godsgravesglyphs; hbo; johnadams; mccullough; moviereview; presidents
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To: Pyro7480

Mr. Feeny. One of the best shows ever on TV: St. Elsewhere although this generation only remembers Boy Meets World. William Daniels has always been one of our best actors.
My kids watched it but I did not know about the H.S. name. Very cool!


61 posted on 02/27/2008 2:45:55 PM PST by bonfire
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To: WoofDog123

thomas jefferson still lives...


62 posted on 02/27/2008 3:34:20 PM PST by wildwood
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To: dickmc

“1776” would have been a better story. Nevertheless, now I will have to add HBO to my f’n cable bill. Lived without it for my 30 years as a cable consumer, but I don’t want to miss this.


63 posted on 02/27/2008 5:58:35 PM PST by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: wagglebee; Pyro7480

Thanks!


64 posted on 02/28/2008 12:39:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
To trash him.

If that were the case, McCullogh wouldn't be supporting it. He was so impressed by Adams while researching the bio that he became the leading voice for an Adams memorial in DC.

The book is excellent. I've read a lot of Founding Fathers histories and bios in the last few years, and most of them have been excellent. But McCullogh's Adams is my favorite by far.

The book quotes generously from letters between Adams and Jefferson, which might surpass even the Federalist as insight into the philosophical debates among the Founders.

The book also quotes from a lot of letters between John and Abigail. Those are the most romantic letters I've ever read between two soulmates -- they make the Brownings' love letters read like a MySpace chat. But way past that, they reveal John's innermost thoughts, shared with his most trusted advisor, who was more than smart enough for the task.

Abigail was also something of a political spy. Men in that era were not the least bit about cautious about discussing their political intrigues in her presence, just assuming that the little lady couldn't possibly understand it. What she heard, she passed on to John.

65 posted on 02/28/2008 1:13:02 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
How does this guy McCullough treat the Universalist/Unitarian movement, and the question of the divinity [or non-divinity] of You-Know-Whom?

He doesn't. It's a work of biography, not theology. And I don't recll a single mention of Voldemort.

66 posted on 02/28/2008 1:16:19 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Pyro7480
The spirit of William Daniels’ portrayal of Adams in “1776” is apparently not far from the truth.

I love that movie. I make a habit of watching it every July 4, and as much as I can, I try to draw in folks (most of the people I know) who haven't seen it.

Adams definitely had a lot of insecurities. He fel that his role in the revolution would be wholly eclipsed by Washington, Franklin and Jefferson, and for the most part in the teaching of American history he's been right.

67 posted on 02/28/2008 1:23:37 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Wanna place a bet on whether or not there's at least an episode devoted to the question of the divinity of Christ?

A crisp Jackson says that there won't be more than five minutes, and I'm giving a generous over-under there.

68 posted on 02/28/2008 1:25:24 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: j_tull
“1776” would have been a better story. Nevertheless, now I will have to add HBO to my f’n cable bill. Lived without it for my 30 years as a cable consumer, but I don’t want to miss this.

Once "Six Feet Under" and "The Sopranos" went off the air, I was ready to dump HBO and use that money to subscribe to Netflix. Looks like they've hooked me for another month.

69 posted on 02/28/2008 1:33:00 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Harrius Magnus

Geesh, now he’s a “unitarian”, too? As well as a “deist”?


70 posted on 02/28/2008 8:09:05 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: ReignOfError

Great musical. Great portrayals in that movie version.

Sorry, but to me William Daniels is THE John Adams. Although I’ve seen some other good 1s.


71 posted on 02/28/2008 8:11:12 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Pyro7480

Oh wonderful. Does this mean again we have to have only the “Director’s (ego) cut”, instead of the way it was experienced on the big screen (”theatrical release”)?

I am so sick of movies being released on DVD/video “extended” the way the director wanted it, instead of the way I experienced it when in the theater. “Superman” is an annoying example of putting in poor filming right in the middle of a great movie as it was, and you can’t even skip over just that add-in, because the “skip” includes valid parts as well.


72 posted on 02/28/2008 8:22:08 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: dickmc
My son is in this series and I had to take him to numerous days of shooting film at different locations more than a year ago. The production looked fabulous. The sets and costumes and the quest for accurate detail was very impressive. Millions have been spent on this series. I have high hopes for the show, and hope to actually see my son in some scenes.
73 posted on 02/28/2008 12:46:42 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: WoofDog123
the death of Pres’s Adams and Jefferson on the same, rather unique date, is quite interesting as far as highly improbable events go.

Oh it get's more improbable. July 4, 1831 James Monroe died. And on July 4, 1872 Calvin Coolidge was born.

74 posted on 03/12/2008 6:41:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: dickmc

Just saw the first two cahpters and I thought it was superb. All I can say is WOW!


75 posted on 03/16/2008 8:10:38 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy
Just saw the first two cahpters and I thought it was superb.

Me, too!

What a great and timely reminder this is that liberty is a great cause at a great cost.

I thought these two chapters were extraordinarily well done.

76 posted on 03/16/2008 8:16:19 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: dickmc
There was an interesting passage in the biography John Adams, by David McCullough, where Adams writes of teaching (home-schooling!) his son John Quincy, who was seventeen:

If you were to examine him in English and French poetry, I know not where you would find anybody his superior... He has translated Virgil's Aeneid... the whole of Sallust and Tacitus' Agricola... a great part of Horace, some of Ovid, and some of Caesar's Commentaries... besides Tully's [Cicero's] Orations...

In Greek his progress has not been equal; yet has he studied morsels of Aristotle's Politics, in Plutarch's Lives, and Lucian's Dialogues, The Choice of Hercules in Xenophon, and lately he has gone through several books in Homer's Iliad.

In mathematics I hope he will pass muster. In the course of the last year... I have spent my evenings with him. We went with some accuracy through the geometry of the Preceptor, the eight books of Simpson's Euclid in Latin,.. We went through plane geometry... algebra, and the decimal fractions, arithmetical and geometrical proportions... I then attempted a sublime flight and endeavored to give him some idea of the differential method of calculations...[and] Sir Isaac Newton; but alas, it is thirty years since I thought of mathematics.

Letter from John Adams to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse, former tutor to John Quincy Adams, pp. 324-325

-PJ

77 posted on 03/16/2008 8:23:29 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Indeed; I had the same thoughts about timeliness and liberty. Not the usual sentiments that HBO and the Hollywood libs usually express. And, the historical accuracy was--to my eye and ear--just terrific.

My only quibble was that the South Carolinians sounded too much like the New Englanders.

78 posted on 03/16/2008 8:33:49 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Now that's a curriculum! I can only imagine what John Adams (or any of the founders) would think of all the gay/feminist/marxist courses taught at most of today's universities.
79 posted on 03/16/2008 8:36:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
They'd haul him away for unauthorized homeschooling, even if his son did turn out to be president of the United States.

-PJ

80 posted on 03/16/2008 8:42:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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