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1 posted on 02/22/2008 8:20:56 AM PST by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 02/22/2008 8:21:16 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Felten adds that even using Trusted Computing hardware doesn't help.

Now there's an understatement. ;-)

11 posted on 02/22/2008 8:53:54 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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13 posted on 02/22/2008 9:08:00 AM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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File Vault on OSX is not 100% secure... 99.9999% but not 100%. Same for BitLocker on Wndows... PING!

Really out-of-the-realm-of-possibility security vulnerability discovered in encrypted disks on both Apple OS X and Windows Vista...

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

15 posted on 02/22/2008 5:35:59 PM PST by Swordmaker (We can fix this, but you're gonna need a butter knife, a roll of duct tape, and a car battery.)
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Watch out for cryogenic data pirates!


18 posted on 02/22/2008 5:56:26 PM PST by 6SJ7
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Moral of the story: there are no perfect locks, only perfect fools that trust in them.


19 posted on 02/22/2008 6:25:19 PM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar & we can join OPEC!!! || Write in Thomas Sowell for President.)
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This requires physical access to the computer and fairly extra-ordinary methods (chilling the RAM to -54 degrees, removing it, putting in another computer, and read). While I won’t say that folks wouldn’t go through that for data, I believe it would likely be an extraordinary case - like national security or BIG bucks. And I believe that such extreme cases would probalby also involve more serious security protection than what comes “stock” on those computers.


20 posted on 02/22/2008 6:30:34 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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Felten’s good at finding vulnerabilities. Still, this is a pretty esoteric hack.


25 posted on 02/23/2008 7:23:43 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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And thus a new occupation is born, the “Field Data Recovery Specialist.” Armed with his power screwdriver, cans of compressed air looped onto his belt, battery-powered “memory preserver” in his backpack, when the cops break down the doors the intrepid FDRS follows close behind.


26 posted on 02/23/2008 3:53:18 PM PST by TChad
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Peter Biddle, the guy in charge of Microsoft's Bitlocker security program, says that this is not a new attack, and that Bitlocker, properly configured, defends against its use on a hibernating laptop. Moreover he says that Bitlocker in Vista SP1 will defend even better against it by permitting use of both a boot PIN and a USB dongle.
27 posted on 02/23/2008 6:15:50 PM PST by TChad
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