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Where have all the good sci-fi films gone (vanity)?
Yours truly

Posted on 02/19/2008 11:03:14 AM PST by rjp2005

Where have all the sci-fi films gone?

Those simple, thought-provoking speculative tales about how people respond to something new, what kind of moral choices they make, keeping traditions in the face of technological change. Essentially, the kind of films that were thought provoking and story/character driven - Day the Earth Stood Still, Planet of Apes, 12 Monkeys, Minority Report (more action though but good), etc.

The "Superhero and Fantasy Genre Craze" since Spiderman and LOTR has really eaten up a lot of support for original sci-fi works to film...

For 2008, we have two horror/slasher types "I Am Legend" (Omega Man remake) and "Death Race" (revisiting the 70's version), another superhero film in "Jumper", "Iron Man", which could be a treat, and maybe the only true sci-fi attempt, "Babylon A.D.". There was also "Sunshine", a late 90's disaster film leftover, possibly funded by Global Warming-mongers ;)


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KEYWORDS: sciencefiction; scifi; sfreference
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To: ronnie raygun; org.whodat
And they have gotten much worse since NBC bought it.

On the bright side, Bonnie Hammer is gone, but her replacement is no great shakes, either, pushing the "reality" side of programming.

Are the Clintonistas still on the payroll? I think there were two of them. Podesta, and somebody else.

301 posted on 02/19/2008 2:51:11 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: mad_as_he$$
Oh well they do the same silly stuff to anything good on the Sci-Fi channel.

Oh I don't know...
They seem to do OK with their "extraterrestrial" wrestling, or whatever it is they call it...

< /sarc >

302 posted on 02/19/2008 2:55:11 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Always Independent

I liked them all. We used to get a double feature on Saturday nights at the movies (late 60’s). It would be a B horror film and a B sci-fi.

Journey to the center of the Earth was a favorite too.


303 posted on 02/19/2008 3:09:01 PM PST by Soliton
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To: RobRoy
...and is the closest thing to the original Star Trek I have seen.

Huh? Firefly is the anti-ST:TOS.

Kirk would not come aboard, and blow away a gub'mint agent without so much as "Can we talk?", and a hug.

Mal Reynolds did.

And the movie can stand by itself, imo, although I did see "Firefly" when it was on the Skiffy Channel.

304 posted on 02/19/2008 3:10:11 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: puroresu

How about the Prisoner? My library has the whole series. The bubble thingy used to freak me out.


305 posted on 02/19/2008 3:10:21 PM PST by Soliton
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To: MarkL

A lot of people wouldn’t consider John Carter of Mars as Sci-Fi, but the God’s of Mars creeped me out. As a teenager, I would sometimes stay up all night to finish one of the novellas. Giant six armed apes and beautiful princesses (the cover paintings were like soft porn too ;) ).


306 posted on 02/19/2008 3:15:07 PM PST by Soliton
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To: Calvin Locke

Actually, my perception of Star Trek, TOS is that it was basically a western in Sci-fi clothes. I do see a lot of similarities to ST TOS and Firefly in the way situations are handled by the two captains, Prime Directive notwithstanding.

I call Firefly a sort of “life and times of Han Solo before he met Luke Skywalker” as well.

I remember the first episode of ST TOS. It was a week before it was supposed to air. A Thursday night. I was so excited I turned to that station just to remind myself to tune in the next week. To my shock and pleasure, there was a “Sneak preview” episode. It was the salt-sucking beast episode. I think I’ve seen every single episode of that show at least 15 times.

FWIW, I call TNG “Star Trek for women”. But the interesting thing about Firefly is that women really like the show. My wife thought it was very entertaining and funny. She really liked the characters and their interactions. She is NOT a sci-fi fan normally.


307 posted on 02/19/2008 3:16:31 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: Soliton

One of my favorites that was made in the 30s was the Man from Planet X. British made.


308 posted on 02/19/2008 3:17:17 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Soliton

I haunt the used book stores looking for 50’s SF books like that. Great stuff!


309 posted on 02/19/2008 3:22:33 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Richard Kimball
"Except Fireball XL5."

Damn your eyes! For over 30 years I had that tune out of my head!!!

310 posted on 02/19/2008 3:23:05 PM PST by Dacus943
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To: MarkL
I think that the people who "adapted" Heinlein's work for that movie need to be lined up and shot

"Based on the back cover of a book by Robert Heinlein"

311 posted on 02/19/2008 3:25:26 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: rjp2005
Okay, last good Sci-fi movie I still enjoy viewing on DVD - Serenity.
312 posted on 02/19/2008 3:27:52 PM PST by Dacus943
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote a novella about role reversal. It was about a distant blck race that had white slaves. It was very insightful and of course called racist.

There is another book called “Black No More”. It was written by a black conservative writer in the first half of the 20th century. In the book, a scientist invents a machine that turns black people white. All the black people condemn it, but slowly but surely black people start to disappear. There are characters in it like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who hate the machine because it is hurting their livelihood. It is the Atlas Shrugged of race relations. Not much of an ending though.


313 posted on 02/19/2008 3:30:50 PM PST by Soliton
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To: Soliton

This thread has made my day much more enjoyable!


314 posted on 02/19/2008 3:32:23 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Soliton

Barsoom, the planet of scantilly-clad damsels in distress.
315 posted on 02/19/2008 3:33:54 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (*-o(:^{>)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; allmendream
The title of The Gripping Hand was changed to The Moat Around Murcheson's Eye for the paperback edition.

On One Hand: indicates it is a sequel

On the Other Hand: the title is perhaps too close, a casual glance in the store, you might mistake it for the original

The Gripping Hand: the phrase is lame, not awesome like The Mote in God's Eye or The Gripping Hand itself

If they asked me (they won't) I would cut the first two chapters where Bury and his pilot/keeper Kevin Renner go to Maxoy's Purchase, which while it details the OOH, OTOH, TGH thing, can be dropped without hurting the story ans is a bit slow for today's audiences who want violence.

Start with scenes of action on the Crazy Eddie Station blend that into the New Scotland background briefing on the Bolckade Fleet including the WTF about the Motie switch to token ships, segue into we have a bigger problem Buckman's Protostar is not so proto and the Moties may already have a wwhole new way into human Space.

Titles.

Exposition scense to introduce the audience to the characters

Go to the expedition to the theoretical new Jump point to the Motie system

More battle and the rest os the book follows.

316 posted on 02/19/2008 3:35:01 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
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To: Dacus943

“Damn your eyes! For over 30 years I had that tune out of my head!!!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVkn9ULqNI

What was the other marionette show (Venus oooooh Venus)?


317 posted on 02/19/2008 3:36:02 PM PST by Soliton
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To: Telepathic Intruder

At 14, those covers were enough.


318 posted on 02/19/2008 3:37:12 PM PST by Soliton
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To: RobRoy
I remember the first run too, but now, the sets just seem so, well, bad...

I did, however, catch "The Trouble with Tribbles" on a LPUFH station Saturday. I couldn't resist.

I did wonder about what the prop guy was thinking at the time, tossing tribbles down at Shatner.

319 posted on 02/19/2008 3:39:16 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: BrewingFrog

Ringworld is the one I would like to see.
Any man-kzin war story would work.


320 posted on 02/19/2008 3:41:52 PM PST by winodog (We have been set up for Hillary)
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