Posted on 01/29/2008 11:21:28 AM PST by Cluster
That would be a better outcome, I just wouldn’t count on it!
Nod. It hurt Rollins when it happened that’s for sure. I’m a cynic; I think he was telling the truth when he said that the moneys were paid and was lying when he said he was not. Fact is that “walking around” money is common and not all illegal. Depends on who is being paid and how it is accounted for and what is being done for it.
These days just call it “get out the vote expenditures.” Same thing.
Huckabee would be eviscerated by the media. Most folks wouldn’t vote for him because they want to get their preaching in Church, and they don’t trust someone who spends all his time evangelizing. It makes them wonder just what he’s really like, because they don’t trust someone who puts everything in narrow religious terms.
What kind of values do you have if you throughout the US Constitution?
Huckster said the US Constitution is a “living” document to be changed over the years?
I will vote for a candidate with “conviction” and “leadership” qualities no mater what way the wind is blowing.
Huckster will vote anyway that is politically expedient. If America wants another Clintoon, O-BamBam, or McCain, then vote for the Huckster, they are all the same liberal, different strips.
But it’s only in November 2004 that they succeeded to create a big last-minute Surprise !
We’ve been following US Presidentials since the Sixties, but never saw before such a sharp and strong, crystal-clear but unexpected, decisive move.
=> Now, (in 2008, as well as in 2012), the point is to recognize its real Importance, make it Stable, and forge an Efficient Base for the Future.
If there are some Pseudo-”Conservatives” who prefer Dems to win, as you claim, then, let them reveal, in front of all American People, and while the whole World is looking, their real nature as defeatists Crypto - Lib-Dems, instead of hidding behind false claims !
=> People will judge them, if they betray, both now and in the Future. (Mike Huckabee can stand and win also in 2012, if needed)...
In case of betrayal, People will resuffle Politics, both in the US and elsewhere in the World, in a brand New Way, able to reveal the Real Dividing lines, without misleading voters, but going straight to the most important things for People’s lives :
- It’s better to focus, in a crystal-clear manner, on what is really at stake : Fex. Mrs Pelosi’s BioTech pals, at Calif. Dems, might find a few submarines secretly pushing for Cloning, Genetic Manipulation of Human Embryo, and other, even worse Atrocities Dangerous for all Humankind, hidden or infiltrated anywhere : Once again, let their Masks fall, and People judge, if needed, by reNewing Politics : That’s the only Democratic way !
>>> But the main thing, today, is that Mike Huckabee appears to be the only candidate able to WIN, by gathering both real Conservatives, and many other Simple and Honest American People among former abstentionists or those misleaded by Dems. (See above).
Nobody else (whatever might be the value of other candidates) can do that.
GOP should give him a chance to use his Human capacities for the common Good of all American People and well beyond.
Calling it another name doesn’t make it ethical. The old “other people do it” doesn’t make it ethical either.
There is NOTHING unethical about “walking around” money in the original sense of the term. Every campaign pays people on the day of the election to get out the vote.
Another FLIP-FLOP MILLIONAIRE, Mr. KERRY, had already wasted many Millions of dollars, in vain : - He LOST (on November 2004) to GWBush !
+ And it’s also a FACT, that Governor Mike Huckabee succeeded, with less than one (1 !) million $, to become FIRST in the National Polls, and afterwards to WIN spectacularly at the opening GOP vote, in Iowa !
While others spent 40, or 60, or 80, or 90 Millions for nothing...
If your claims were true, then ... Hillary (followed by Obama) would be the next President, succeeding to Mr. Kerry (hoooops : there is at least 1 error there !)...
=> As we, and other Friends, said from the start : Governor Mike Huckabee’s special feature, or secret, is to be fueled by PEOPLE’s ENERGY !..
Facts prove that, often, VALUES are STRONGER THAN MONEY !
(That might, hopefully, spare at least a few dollars, to Feds, when Mike gets through, in 2008 or 2012)...
It’s still illegal.
You are just wrong about that. Paying campaign workers is perfectly legal.
He wasn’t paying campaign workers. He paid black ministers, who had already endorsed Florio, to stop talking about him.
Tempted to make fun of you. Walking around money is a common political term. It’s basically loose cash in the hands of a campaign manager who pays people to get out the vote on election day. Nothing illegal about that. You seem to be under the impression that because illegal things can be done with money in campaigns that makes all get out the vote spending illegal . . . which is silly . . . and what I’ve said in the last 3 or so posts. Have a good day and “keep it real.” For real.
Thank goodness the Huckster is on the way out
“Tempted to make fun of you.”
Go right ahead. In Rollins case he paid off black ministers to suppress the black vote. You call that okay. Those are your values.
Even Christine Todd Whitman thought his actions were wrong.
This is a conservative website.”
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Perhaps...but this conservative will crawl over broken glass to vote for Huckabee or any other GOP nominee to keep Hillary and her pathetic sidekick Bill from trashing the White House (again).
Welcome !
Anytime I see ‘too old’, I just gotta think: We’re so bare in our cupboard that we’ve got to dig up empty issues like age. How about health concerns? That’d seem much more valid. But nope; he’s ‘old’ therefore unfit for the presidency?. ...”
No : You got it Wrong, at this point : “Old liberal”, means that at least in some issues, it is well known, since a long time ago, that someone agrees with Dems, and doesn’t have a consequent and crystal-clear Conservative Values’ view.
The physical Age of any Person has nothing to do with his or her capacities : We agree absolutely with you on this point. Usually, even Indians gave special importance to Experienced People, and it was “Old” Men who saved an entire village from the 2004 Tsunami thanks to their Memory. We are among those who condemn Age Racism against Senior Workers.
The only useful thing that anyone might say about this, is the simple fact that McCain obviously plays his last Presidential hopeful game, while Huckabee can have also another chance in 2012, being almost 20 Years younger.
>>> In fact, one of the main Issues for which we are Uncertain about McCain, is his real stance on Manipulation of Human Genetics, and particularly Embryos, which may provoke very Dangerous threats against all Humankind : Both his Voting record, and his website, leave big Question Marks on whether he will accept or ban risky Genetic Tests on Human Beings, including spare and other Human Embryos.
=> Risks for him to abandon even US President GWBush’s stance, and go side by side with Liberal Dems on these Crucial points (which played a role also in November 2004 US Presidential Election) are obvious, and much more important that any secondary, superficial bla-bla.
In consequence, in order to get any eventual support from Values’ oriented Conservatives, McCain must make crystal-clear Promises on such concrete points, and to make a coalition f. ex. with a clear Value Conservative like Governor Mike Huckabee, whoever might be first.
But, his past record, we’re afraid, does NOT let many hopes for a real change, on such important Issues both for America and the World, as well as for all Humankind, that no serious person can ignore.
=> That’s one among the many and various reasons for which Value-oriented Conservatives feel much more at ease with Governor Mike Huckabee.
You must be kidding.
Not Arkansas even. Remember all those big tax increases?
Keep it real! I didn’t call that okay — you’re one of those pain in the wazoos that pretend that the person they are posting to said something they didn’t. Not a good habit. Dishonest and transparent.
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