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This really burns me up. I know it's just a comic book character--but it's also a cultural icon. Here are my main problems with this:

1) In a society with so few marriages lasting, can't we let kids of broken homes have any examples of working marriages... even in fiction?

2) The characters make a deal with the devil to "rend asunder what God has joined." Welcome to the brave new modern era where good doesn't always triumph.

3) The writers admit they've been trying to break up Peter and Mary Jane for years... but they couldn't do it... because the fans wouldn't go for it? Why do they think they will go for this?

I read many years ago that the best writers write about characters... they follow them and report on their story. The worst writers force the story to unfold as they want it to. You can guess what I think of these writers...

1 posted on 01/10/2008 12:33:06 PM PST by pgyanke
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To: pgyanke

How about how the nerdy Peter Parker had to lose his glasses almost immediately in the Spider-Man movies?

Don’t look to the popular culture for role models.

And I’m sure that Steve Ditko (original artist and co-creator of Spider-Man) has to be dismayed to see his creation used by Marvel and the UN to push the United Nations’ propaganda to school children. Steve Ditko’s own political views are more alligned with Ayn Rand’s Objectivism.


2 posted on 01/10/2008 12:36:39 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: pgyanke

Some years ago, a big name science fiction writer (might have been Jerry Pournelle) commented that a good writer is very careful about how he treats his characters ... especially considering how well armed most of them are.


3 posted on 01/10/2008 12:37:25 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: pgyanke

Dibbs on Mary Jane!!!


4 posted on 01/10/2008 12:37:32 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: pgyanke

So much for reading Spidey. Pretty much, there’s nothing MARVEL worth reading anymore. Cap was killed. Spidey is re-written. . . is nothing sacred ?

At least DC keeps its’ heroes. . .


5 posted on 01/10/2008 12:39:02 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: pgyanke

Im a single “frivolous” young dude, but Superman being married to Lois Lane, that didnt bother me at all. It just shows Superman has his priorities straight..that’s why he’s Superman.

Marvel, being operated by a lefty (Quesada) opts to screw up everything for the sake of sales. Spidey is an icon. No wonder I have never bought a single Marvel comic in 6 months. The last <Marvel comic I wanted to buy was Thor # 3, but was sold out. Marvel opted to COMBINE 1, 2 and 3 for the 2ND printing, which didnt sit well with me because i already had THOR 1 and 2. Freakin idiots at Marvel.

First Civil War’ where the heroes have to join the govt OR DIE (communist crapology) then the UN comics. No more marvel for this dog.


8 posted on 01/10/2008 1:17:11 PM PST by max americana
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To: pgyanke

I always knew Spidey was a homo.


12 posted on 01/10/2008 1:26:43 PM PST by YourAdHere (Buy My Book, Bradypalooza, from Amazon.Com)
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To: pgyanke

Fast is this sounds like the sort of cheap theatrical trick that “writers” with a block use to meet deadlines. The saving grace (albeit an extremely irritating and insulting one) is that they usually couple it to the scene where Spiderman wakes up and realizes he was only dreaming.

Pathetic!


16 posted on 01/10/2008 3:12:49 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: pgyanke

Does Stan Lee still do this? Maybe they could bring in Hillary/Bill/Peter Paul-like characters???


17 posted on 01/10/2008 4:10:08 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: pgyanke

They Killed Jean Grey.

Then brought her back ten years later as Phoenix.

Anything is possible in Comic Books.

Continuity is always a problem, trying to keep stories current, while characters have been living in times for more than 40 years.

My bet will be that this storyline with Mephisto will eventually end up being a bad deal. The “Deal with the Devil” seems like a good idea for Peter and MJ, but maybe not in the long run.


18 posted on 01/11/2008 6:16:56 AM PST by Portnoy (Fahrenheit 451...Today's Temperature is hotter than you think...)
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To: pgyanke
I’m glad they did this.

Its time to let a new generation of kids grow up with Peter Parker.

Whats next, geriatric Spiderman? Course not...take him back to who he is.

23 posted on 01/11/2008 8:43:36 PM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: new cruelty

yo


24 posted on 01/11/2008 8:44:08 PM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: pgyanke
Mary Jane was always a bit of a hottie.


26 posted on 01/11/2008 10:27:26 PM PST by winstonwolf33 ("Priapus, king and master! Master of the Universe! King of the Jungle!"--Bonfire of the Vanities)
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To: pgyanke
In a society with so few marriages lasting, can't we let kids of broken homes have any examples of working marriages... even in fiction?

You know, at first read I thought, "It's just a comic book," but after I read what you said, it made me think again. & it seems like most characters in the media are portrayed as single, aren't they?

27 posted on 01/11/2008 10:31:48 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: pgyanke

Peter and MJ have been married 21 years! Wow, time flies. I haven’t followed Spider Man comics for some time, but I would think that it would be relatively easy for a decent writer to come up with fresh ideas for the character and his wife.


29 posted on 01/12/2008 7:08:02 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: pgyanke

The editors at both DC and Marvel really suck. There’s a damn good reason comics are dying, and the people running the comic book business are part of the problem.


39 posted on 01/14/2008 11:11:20 AM PST by DesScorp
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Joe Quesada, Marvel’s editor in chief, also killed off Captain America. Soon there will be an Illegal Alien superhero.

Of course, these are all just comic books.


40 posted on 01/26/2008 4:25:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: pgyanke

Does this make my wedding and honeymoon comic issues worthless?

42 posted on 01/31/2008 9:16:17 PM PST by xp38
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