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Buckeyhes and BCS: Third Times the Harm
ESPN ^ | 1.8.08 | By Pat Forde

Posted on 01/08/2008 7:50:51 AM PST by meandog

NEW ORLEANS -- With the 2007 football season complete, here's the game plan for 2008:

Jim Tressel's Ohio State team has lost back-to-back games for the BCS national championship.

We need border patrols along Interstate 10, from Jacksonville to Pensacola. A Coast Guard blockade at Biscayne Bay. And the FAA should redirect all inbound flights to South Florida from Ohio.

If you see a silver helmet and a sweater vest coming, contact authorities.

Because next year's BCS National Championship Game will be played in Miami, and the Ohio State Buckeyes aren't invited. Especially if the Southeastern Conference champion is invited.

If you've ever seen lions maul a water buffalo, you've seen the last two title games. You've seen a fierce pair of SEC teams -- Florida last year, LSU this year -- blow the vulnerable Buckeyes back to the Bratwurst Belt by a combined 41 points. You've seen the best of one league flex, and the best of an inferior league collapse

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To: Biggirl

Best of luck to your Huskies in roundball.


121 posted on 01/08/2008 9:03:38 AM PST by MoMagic
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To: edcoil
USC would have beaten both teams.

Well yeah, if they had a decent coach they would have.

122 posted on 01/08/2008 9:03:45 AM PST by subterfuge (1st choice: Hunter------2nd choice: Thompson-----3rd choice: there is no 3rd choice!)
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To: meandog

My take: USC has NO claim to being the best. Beating Ill gets you no points. Same for Georgia. Come back when you actually play a meaningful BCS game.

The SEC is clearly top dog: 7-2 in bowls if I remember, with big bowl wins. The Big-12, despite OU’s inexplicible annual BCS meltdown is second with several quality bowl wins. Their only other bowl losses were by middle tier teams. The Pac-10 and the Big-10 reveal themselves to be the weaker conferences.

If you want a plus 1 format, then, USC and Georgia better play someone in a BCS game. This year, it would have been LSU vs either Kansas or WV. Playing Ill or the WAC gets you no plus 1 respect. I, personally, would have actually stayed up to watch LSU vs. WV in a plus 1 title game.

My only other take: get rid of the stupid 2 team per conference rule. Mizzou was screwed by the selection from the wackety WAC that thinks it deserves annual BCS title consideration.


123 posted on 01/08/2008 9:04:33 AM PST by Lord_Calvinus
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To: MoMagic

Sorry for the mistaken nic, it was nice to see Mizzou beat an SEC team, the Razorbacks of AK. Wish they were able to have gone to the championship, but beating a SEC team during the bowl season was a sign of the sweet smell of sucess. :)


124 posted on 01/08/2008 9:05:01 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: edcoil

ROFLOL

Who lost to Stanford?????????????????????


125 posted on 01/08/2008 9:05:25 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Impeach the Boy
Ill was not ranked in the top twenty until they beat OSU, and had three loses prior to that.

I'm generally a Pac-10 loyalist but USC wouldn't have beaten LSU this year. The USC fans are reading way too much into the Rose Bowl game. It was basically a home game against an extremely one-dimensional team. Other than Hawaii (which was a complete joke), Illinois was the worst BCS team by a long ways. Kansas, the other candidate for the distinction, would have handed the Illini their head.

I've watched a lot of college football and the best team I saw this year was the LSU team against VT (prior to LSU getting bite by the injury bug).

126 posted on 01/08/2008 9:05:50 AM PST by CommerceComet (Mitt Romney: boldly saying whatever the audience wants to hear.)
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To: subterfuge
USC would have beaten both teams. Well yeah, if they had a decent coach they would have.

If 'ifs and buts' were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas. BTW, did you see the LSU players rubbing Urban's head after the game. I think Urban wanted to join them in chanting "SEC!! SEC!!!"

127 posted on 01/08/2008 9:06:11 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: meandog
The Ohio State University deserves all the humiliation they will have heaped on them.

As a rabid Buckeye fan I’m,

A) Sick of this “keep the money in Ohio” crud scheduling Akron, Bowling Green, Miami, Kent State stuff.

B) Same with the Big Ten. I don’t think there is a decent QB in all the Big Ten.

C) Jim Heacock and his zone, zone blitz schemes. OSU defense is a facade and when put up against a real offense they crumble for lack of strong line play and the inability to cover the TE.

The last two years was a real embarressment for a program that puts so many young men in the pros the problem starts at the top. Today I’m not much of a Tressel or his staff fan.

128 posted on 01/08/2008 9:07:31 AM PST by A message
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To: Biggirl

The Big East is indeed improving. But as a whole they still rank below the ACC in my personal opinion. They have some recently good programs like UCONN, Rutgers and a couple of established football programs like WV, Syracuse and Louisville.

I think the Big East is a powerhouse in hoops though :-)


129 posted on 01/08/2008 9:11:30 AM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: meandog
Ohio State has the same problem most big time football factories have. Why should the individual players get up for the bowl game? What difference will it make? Ohio State players headed for the NFL draft will be drafted regardless of whether Ohio State finishes 1st, 4th, or 40th in the polls. By this point in the year they have nothing more to prove, nothing more to showcase, and nothing worth risking an injury over. LSU won because they cared slightly more than the Ohio State players did.

The only game Ohio State will ever get up for is Michigan.

130 posted on 01/08/2008 9:13:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: edcoil
USC would have beaten both teams.

But still lost to Stanford. Deal with it.

131 posted on 01/08/2008 9:14:17 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: orlop9
Until the 60’s SEC teams played there often

Until the 40s.

132 posted on 01/08/2008 9:14:41 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: dfwgator

No, I didn’t see that. What a hoot!

I’m guessing THE Ohio State University debuts at number 3 in ‘08, which would be insane.

And I really don’t think Pete Carroll is that good of a coach. good recruiter, yes, coach? No.


133 posted on 01/08/2008 9:15:19 AM PST by subterfuge (1st choice: Hunter------2nd choice: Thompson-----3rd choice: there is no 3rd choice!)
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To: A message
Gee, I miss Woody. I got to meet him once in Myrtle Beach, a long time ago at a NCAA coaches conference...he was there with former Big 10 commish (something) Wayne. I have to say he was a perfect gentleman off the field and away from the action...a 180-degree turnabout. Sure, the old man had a temper but he really was able to motivate players. He probably wouldn't have much fit into today's ideal coach though.
I don't mind people who boil when they are able to get things done. Take Bobby Knight for instance. You can say what you want about his temper but his record kind of speaks for itself.
It's one reason I'm a John McCain fan!
134 posted on 01/08/2008 9:15:23 AM PST by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: Lord_Calvinus

“That would be Texas Tech.”

...who scored 10 points in 21 seconds to beat VA in the Gator Bowl. Now THAT was an exciting finish!
The Big 12 did very well in the bowl games this year...winning 5 of 8, I believe. If OK could ever win one, we’d do even better.
The cure for OSU’s problem might be to get a good Texas high school quarterback. Check out how many bowl winners did just that this year. LSU had two of them, an embarrassment of riches. With over 1,100 high school teams in Texas, in the upper divisions coached to the max, you have loads of talented QBs ready to win in college ball.


135 posted on 01/08/2008 9:16:08 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: ChinaThreat

The Big East is at its best in the hoops, but the Big East has a bright future ahead in football. Even the ACC this bowl season except for 2 teams ( Wake Forest and Boston College ), fell short which even suprised me.


136 posted on 01/08/2008 9:18:11 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: A message

Please do write to the OSU AD and let him/her know what needs to be improved upon.


137 posted on 01/08/2008 9:19:18 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

Thanks for rooting for the Buckeyes yesterday.


138 posted on 01/08/2008 9:28:10 AM PST by A message
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To: Lord_Calvinus
wackety WAC that thinks it deserves annual BCS title consideration.

It looked pretty good last year, didn't it? If you're going to have the BCS, I'm not sure why you should basically exclude mid-majors, which is what happened before last year. There are some good football teams in mid-major conferences, and they ought to get their shot.

Despite this year's result, the two teams per conference rule actually benefits the marginal teams, like Mizzou or Kansas. If there were no such rule, the bowls would simply elect to take highly-regarded teams that travel well (think Michigan, for instance) over perhaps more deserving teams that do not have the name recognition and will not fill as many seats. If you are a bowl organizer, who would you rather have playing: Michigan or Kansas? Texas or Mizzou?

Those who are advocating the elimination of the two-team rule aren't clearly thinking through the results.

139 posted on 01/08/2008 9:30:02 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Impeach the Boy

Their QB broke his finger during that game and started making bad throws. Once he got it back together they started winning again. They have a very, very fast defense, a beast of a DT and their RB’s are break away threats.


140 posted on 01/08/2008 9:30:44 AM PST by misterrob
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