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1 posted on 12/29/2007 10:57:42 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Maybe they were and are cowards and maybe Carlos was not.


2 posted on 12/29/2007 11:00:01 AM PST by DeLaine
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"By all acccounts..."

Accounts from whom? If the brothers aren't talking, then who is? And what else did that person or persons witness?

5 posted on 12/29/2007 11:03:45 AM PST by Wolfie
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It’s hard to be certain about the names, but is it possible they weren’t going to risk their lives for an infidel?


7 posted on 12/29/2007 11:03:50 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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They might ALL be alive...IF they had been allowed to carry guns. But not in Cali - esp. not in San Fran.


11 posted on 12/29/2007 11:06:40 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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It is obvious that they aren't talking because they have something to hide. Everyone involved had criminal records prior to this attack. They drove 50+ miles on Christmas Eve to go to the zoo. I don't think it was because they were bored. Something really fishy was going on and these boys know it. The truth will come out.
14 posted on 12/29/2007 11:09:37 AM PST by Drew68
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Idiots.


15 posted on 12/29/2007 11:10:52 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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Having never been attacked by a 350 pound tiger I’m not gonna criticize anyone who ran away from such an attack.I’ll criticize actions that took place before the attack but not once the attack began.
19 posted on 12/29/2007 11:16:24 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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"The anguished brother of a teen who died ...struggled Friday to understand why the survivors ran out on their mortally injured friend."

Maybe this parable will help him understand:

Two friends were strolling down a jungle trail when suddenly they looked up and saw a tiger on the trail coming at them in full attack. One of the men bent over to tightly lace his shoes and the other asked him, “Why are you doing that? Don’t you know you can’t outrun a tiger?” With a knowing smile, his friend replied, “I don’t have to outrun the tiger; all I have to do is outrun you.”

22 posted on 12/29/2007 11:23:02 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Survivors guilt is very common.

They have nothing to be ashamed of. A 165 pound human is no match for a 400 pound tiger.


24 posted on 12/29/2007 11:25:23 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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police had found a shoe and blood inside the enclosure.... also said "pinecones and sticks that were found in the moat might have been thrown at the animal... Sources have told The Chronicle that the tiger's rear claws show signs of wear, supporting the theory that Tatiana may have used her rear legs to climb the wall....crossed a metal fence that surrounds the tiger grotto. Blood was found between the fence and the moat wall as was a shoeprint on the fence. .....Tatiana latched on to the limb to pull herself out...... They were charged earlier this year with misdemeanor public intoxication and resisting a police officer .......After the zoo attack, authorities said, the brothers had refused to give their own names, identify the victim or give authorities an account of what occurred.....

They were up to no good, it sounds like.
Would it not be ironic, to be eaten by the Animal you tease, attack and belittle, just to see what it does and then it gets out after all.


25 posted on 12/29/2007 11:25:30 AM PST by modican
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First of all, I’m not convinced that if I saw a 350-pound tiger eating someone, I wouldn’t run like hell, too. Sometimes, there is really no sense in intervening. And secondly, I’m not at all convinced that Carlos sacrificed his life for his friends. Sorry, but this whole story stinks. And since minorities are involved in a PC state, I doubt we’ll ever know the full truth.


27 posted on 12/29/2007 11:28:00 AM PST by lapster
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Sounds to me like they don’t want to ruin any chances of their juicy lawsuit by revealing that they were teasing, taunting and throwing things at the tiger after hours.

Maybe they threw Carlos to the tiger?


28 posted on 12/29/2007 11:28:43 AM PST by Bon mots (I)
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The behavior of the two brothers is despicable if the reports are true.

They refused to even give the name of Carlos or their own - refused to cooperate with the police. This, along with other info implies they were guilty of a criminal act.

I have no sympathy for the brothers.

35 posted on 12/29/2007 11:36:37 AM PST by Dante3
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Here’s a random thought. Let’s tie Khalbir Dhawali to a tree and coat his body in Catnip! Then let Kitty loose!


36 posted on 12/29/2007 11:37:34 AM PST by Doc Savage (The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants)
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Here’s Carlos’ original MySpace page. It’s been replaced by a “Memorial” version.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=44515158

I viewed many of his “friends” - Gangstaz all


39 posted on 12/29/2007 11:38:50 AM PST by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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My first inclination when I see a charging tiger is to run.


45 posted on 12/29/2007 11:44:26 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Having an Indian name means they’re from India? I must be from ireland, then, and am a moron to know it, according to the Brightest around here! More likely, their parents emigrated from India, or from the Indian diaspora somewhere on the planet, in Asia, Africa or Europe. There are plenty of such Indians in Sillicon Valley. The punks are probably totally Americanized in the worst possible way. Like their dead pal Carlos.


47 posted on 12/29/2007 11:47:07 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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Paul Dhaliwal also has three other cases in Santa Clara County: an arrest for reckless driving and evading a police officer and being a minor in possession of alcohol and public intoxication, according to court documents.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/14940180/detail.html


51 posted on 12/29/2007 11:51:44 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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In another development, Sousa’s father alleged Paul Dhaliwal lied about his son’s whereabouts that day. Sousa’s family was worried when he failed to turn up Christmas morning to open presents and began calling friends to find out where he was.

Sousa Sr. had called Paul Dhaliwal about 3 or 4 p.m. Christmas Day, an hour or two before the tiger attacks. He wanted his son home to celebrate Christmas dinner with his mother.

But Paul Dhaliwal reportedly told Sousa Sr. that he had not seen his son for days.

“We’re just so upset about that,” said the victim’s cousin, Christina Sousa-Habenicht, 26. “We feel we could have prevented something. We just have this huge ‘What if?’ — what if we could have talked to him. Instead his friend lied. What kind of friend is that?”

Ever since the family found Wednesday that Sousa was killed in the attack, they have been trying to reach the Dhaliwals’ parents. They have left messages, but the family has not returned their calls. Sousa considered Paul Dhaliwal one of his best friends.

“We have a lot of questions,” the teenager’s mother, Marilza Sousa, said Thursday. “We want to know how it happened, and only the two boys can tell us.”

http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_7828128?source=rss&nclick_check=1


59 posted on 12/29/2007 12:00:53 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Seems to me this is just a bunch of dumb kids goofing around. They didn’t count on tigers jumping really high.

What I don’t understand, though, is if the tiger used the one boy’s leg as a kind of rope ladder to climb out, how the heck did the kid keep from falling in with a 350 lb cat hanging from his leg?

I’d have to see pics of the enclosure to fully grasp it. But I’m wondering if the dead kid was an idiot that went into the cat enclosure on a dare. THen he got hurt. The two buddies outside the cage begin to throw rocks and sticks to distract the tiger long enough for the hurt boy to get hauled out of the pen by his buddies. The tiger becomes so enraged when his prey is stolen from him that he leaps like he’s never leaped before and makes it up and over the wall in hot pursuit of his prey. Outside the tiger pen, the two boys put up a very short and very feeble resistance to keep the tiger off their hurt buddy. But the tiger isn't having any of it. IT's his prey and he's keeping it. A couple of very small "warning" nips and swipes at the two boys and they run for their lives.

Here ya go, that’s my theory.

The fact that two of the boys are of ethnicities that have histories with wild tigers(india), and the third is the dead one that does not, makes this even more suspicious. I can imagine an argument about just how dangerous a tiger really is and the non indian kid decides he can prove the two indian boys he's not afraid of no silly cat. Then the trip to the zoo is hatched and the stupid stunt that got him killed.

61 posted on 12/29/2007 12:02:29 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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