Looking at the time and other articles, it is highly possible these Guys went that late to the Zoo, with the plan to let Animals out. That would become a Terrorism issue.
Or their ancestry kicked thru and they wanted to be like Siegfried & Roy.
Posted on 12/29/2007 10:57:39 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
The anguished brother of a teen who died trying to save two buddies from a tiger attack at the San Francisco Zoo struggled Friday to understand why the survivors ran out on their mortally injured friend.
"If he stepped in for you, why did you leave him to die?" asked 17-year-old Carlos Sousa's brother, Leo, 21.
He said his family has been looking for answers since the 350-pound tiger got loose on Christmas and mauled Carlos.
By all accounts, the youth was killed trying to get the big cat away from brothers Kulbir Dhaliwal, 23, and Amritpal, 19.
But Leo Sousa said his family's calls to the Dhaliwal family have gone unanswered.
The brothers, who aren't saying much to investigators, could be released from San Francisco General Hospital today
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
Have never read that where is the link to the bystanders statement that had the cat pass him up.
Sometimes the line between brave and stupid is thin, I suppose. And yet, many have done the stupid thing and are heroes in my book. You can think otherwise if you choose. There are fewer and fewer real men in this country, probably because we now live in the era of the cult of self. The only quotes I can find from your namesake seem to revere bravery and I don’t see any where he defines it as only doing the right thing if the odds are on your side.
susie
True, what is the old statement about what you call the slow runner.
My first inclination when I see a charging tiger is to run.
You sir, are an insolent fool. I guess you parents never taught you manners.
Having an Indian name means they’re from India? I must be from ireland, then, and am a moron to know it, according to the Brightest around here! More likely, their parents emigrated from India, or from the Indian diaspora somewhere on the planet, in Asia, Africa or Europe. There are plenty of such Indians in Sillicon Valley. The punks are probably totally Americanized in the worst possible way. Like their dead pal Carlos.
Both Kulbir and Paul Dhaliwal were charged Oct. 9 with misdemeanor public intoxication and resisting a police officer after they were arrested a short distance from their home while apparently chasing two men, according to court documents.
Kulbir Dhaliwal allegedly cursed officers and kicked the security partition between the back and front seats in a police car after being handcuffed in the Sept. 7 incident, the police report said.
The brothers pleaded not guilty to the charges and are scheduled to appear in court Jan. 15, records show.
“The reports indicate they were extremely belligerent with police,” said Steuart Scott, the deputy district attorney assigned the case.
Ralph Benitez, a public defender who represents Kulbir Dhaliwal, did not return calls seeking comment.
On Thursday, Sousa’s friends and family created a Web site to memorialize him.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/28/MN7RU5I8P.DTL
The two brothers ran off when the friend trying to help was attacked and killed. And there is the matter of the shoe print on the wrong side of the fence which police are comparing to the shoes wore by the tiger victims.
The brothers must be hiding something, because they aren't saying much. If a friend of mine had been killed while trying to save me from an escaped tiger, I'd be telling every detail I knew to the police and his family to help.
Of course, though, I never tease zoo animals. It's not hard to suspect that the tiger had been enraged by actions of the young men (pine cone throwing, etc.), and the tiger climbed up that 12.5 ft. wall to get them.
The zoo's hung though, because that wall was supposed to be about 4 ft. higher, even though the zoo had passed the last AZA expection 3 years ago, so the national organzation is being accused of not enforcing it's own standards.
You don't know much about surnames, do you?
Paul Dhaliwal also has three other cases in Santa Clara County: an arrest for reckless driving and evading a police officer and being a minor in possession of alcohol and public intoxication, according to court documents.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/14940180/detail.html
expection=inspection
Yeah, maybe the kid would not have died if they had guns but one thing they teach you when you get a concealed carry permit is how to avoid having to defend yourself.
Response: Yes.
Comment: Our society will go even lower.
[Well, there’s a red flag and what the devil were the parents doing at this point?]
I believe at 23 and 19 they should be responsible themselves and not need mommy/daddy to accompany them on long trips.
Sorry, I thought they were younger. My mistake.
Believe it or not there are Muslims in India, so no matter what their name is they could be Muslims.
In another development, Sousa’s father alleged Paul Dhaliwal lied about his son’s whereabouts that day. Sousa’s family was worried when he failed to turn up Christmas morning to open presents and began calling friends to find out where he was.
Sousa Sr. had called Paul Dhaliwal about 3 or 4 p.m. Christmas Day, an hour or two before the tiger attacks. He wanted his son home to celebrate Christmas dinner with his mother.
But Paul Dhaliwal reportedly told Sousa Sr. that he had not seen his son for days.
“We’re just so upset about that,” said the victim’s cousin, Christina Sousa-Habenicht, 26. “We feel we could have prevented something. We just have this huge ‘What if?’ — what if we could have talked to him. Instead his friend lied. What kind of friend is that?”
Ever since the family found Wednesday that Sousa was killed in the attack, they have been trying to reach the Dhaliwals’ parents. They have left messages, but the family has not returned their calls. Sousa considered Paul Dhaliwal one of his best friends.
“We have a lot of questions,” the teenager’s mother, Marilza Sousa, said Thursday. “We want to know how it happened, and only the two boys can tell us.”
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_7828128?source=rss&nclick_check=1
I’m reminded of all the stories where the pilot stayed in his uncontrollable airplane so it wouldn’t hit a school. If it is uncontrollable, how does staying help? And in the seconds that count, would you even know it was likely to hit a school?
Many stories of heroism are true (I’ve met Medal of Honor winners)...and many heroes are accidents of time/space.
Like you, I think no one knows what they would do in a situation like that until it happened. Based on studies of how the brain worked, it would probably depend more on preconceptions from movies, etc than on any rational thought.
There have been times in my life I’ve been afraid without reason. There have been other times where I should have been afraid, but things seemed so unreal that I wasn’t scared at all.
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