The usual dead animal themes here run the frequent tone.
Poor dead animal.....and yes....I like Tigers too.
Little or no remorse whatsoever for families who lost their kids.
Somehow if the kids taunted to tiger then it’s ok they died or they deserved it.
And yet...poor little Tiger....and even some angry the cops shot it....hell yes....why didn’t someone toss it a baby to gnaw on so it could then be coaxed back into it’s cage...I mean..it is a noble animal...lol
Nothing personal but you folks have your priorites screwed up.
Placing animals even cute majestic predatory ones like Tigers above man is nutty....it’s the sort of thing animists do.
Were the kids allegedly reckless? yes if they taunted the cat
Did they deserve to die for that?
not in universe
When I lived in remote third world areas where there was wildlife on whose menu we existed the locals were under no such illusion like some heartless naive folks are here
I don't disagree with you, but if they were dangling body parts into the tiger's exhibit it's hard to get too upset. It's like the case of someone killed in an accident with a BAC of .35. They didn't deserve it, but some behaviors tend to have catastrophic results. That's life.
Abusing animals is just plain wrong. This abuse (if it happened) was quite deliberate. The big cat, on the other hand, was doing what was natural for big, wild cats. Abusing this particular animal had consequences, and if he taunted Tatiana, one kid paid the ultimate stupidity tax for it—the other two paid dearly as well.
I view this as tragic for all, and not unlike playing chicken with a freight train. It could have been avoided.
Imagine if this were a movie at the movie theater. In the movie three hoodlums spend a few minutes throwing rocks and sticks at the tiger. The tiger finds a way to kill one and maul the other two. Do you reckon the moviewatchers would cheer the tiger? I think a majority would. Hoodlum behavior doesn't get much sympathy even in nonconservative groups.
In the bible there is the story of one of God's servants trying to do God's work and a group of hecklers makes fun of his male pattern baldness. A bear comes out of the brush and mauls several of them to death. Which is worse, throwing sticks at a tiger or calling someone "baldy"?
Re: Somehow if the kids taunted to tiger then it’s ok they died or they deserved it.
Exactly!
Re: Nothing personal but you folks have your priorites screwed up.
I’m sorry, but we have an obligation to protect endangered species. It is incumbent upon us if indeed we are the most intelligent (some days I doubt this). When we cannot and tragedies like this happen, I feel sorry for the animal but not for the idiots who started the chain of events. Not an ounce.
Re: Placing animals even cute majestic predatory ones like Tigers above man is nutty....
I think it’s nutty to believe man automatically has a higher right to live than people who are not able to show human characteristics, such as compassion.
Personally, I'm holding out to learn what the official word is on what happened, but if it turns out that the victim was acting out a certain type of cruelty by taunting and teasing a caged animal and then got killed by that same animal? The part of me that believes in karmic justice, loves animals and hates those who are cruel to animals will have a hard time finding sympathy. Boys will be boys, but tigers tend to be tigers.
Did they deserve to die for that?<<
The tiger thought so. Actions have consequences & these punks learned the hard way. Unfortunately the tiger lost its' life as well, but it was just being a tiger.
I guess you can list me as one of the heartless on here. I felt for the kids until the real story started to come out. They brought this on themselves, why should anyone feel sorry for them?
A-freakin-men .... preach on.
The kids taunted the animal. It reacted normally.
Too bad for the kids. They have learned a lesson that will keep them from growing up to be serial killers though. That is good.
I feel bad for the tiger. So sue me!
I agree, we have some real sick people here who think it is better that a man die than a tiger be taunted.
That’s the same mentality that says we shouldn’t eat meat, use wool or leather, breed chickens or eggs, hunt, have circuses or pets, ride horses or drink milk.
It’s sick...it’s what St. Paul talked about when he cautioned against worshipping the creation rather than the Creator.
Ed
It isn’t that they deserved to die for throwing rocks and sticks at the animal, otherwise known as taunting; but I can’t help but think these victims were not children, they were teenagers who should have known better.
RE: Nothing personal but you folks have your priorites screwed up.
Whatever. If they were taunting that thing, then I have about as much sympathy for those people as the ones who roll down their windows to pet or feed the “cute Grizzly Bear.” They are (or were) 19, 17, and 23; only one was legally a minor, and just barely at that.
Bottom line is, you underestimate wild animals at your own risk.
Besides, I believe in personal responsibility, don’t you?
Somehow if the kids taunted to tiger then it’s ok they died or they deserved it.
If you taunt a animal that can kill you and it happens then you may have deserved it.
Is it OK? No. It's a little late to approve or disapprove IMO. It's done.
If they were taunting the tiger did they deserve to be killed or mauled? I guess that depends upon what you mean by "deserve." It was a natural consequence of their actions which were undertaken by their own free-will choices. Would I consider that a morally or ethically balanced result? No. But it is a perfectly ordered result of their actions given the reality of 'tiger.' If you harass a large predatory animal you are creating the conditions for a result just like this.
I can empathize with ignorance but I sure can't sympathize with it.
Certainly, we generally consider human life sacrosanct above all animal life...but there are certainly exceptions to that...if I had to choose between a Geoffrey Dahmer or my German Shepherd, you can bet Dahmer would get short shrift. If as speculated, the mauling victims were taunting the tiger or even encroaching on its enclosure, it's not a matter of whether or not they "deserved" it, but merely a natural consequence of their actions...one might just as easily speculate if a person who put a loaded pistol in their mouth and pulled the trigger "deserved" to die.
Likewise, from a biblical perspective, humans are responsible to the beasts merely out of respect for God's creation. Certainly, I have no problem with the police officers doing what they had to do to save the lives of other people, even to protect those who may have provoked the tiger, but if the tiger died because of the foolishness, recklessness, and hubris of the *victims* then they should be viewed in light of that as well.
As I've stated to others on this matter, I don't want to misrepresent completely innocent zoo guests as miscreants, but likewise, I don't want to make martyrs out of morons. I suspect the facts will eventually come to light, but I don't think it's fair to accuse others here of demeaning the value of human life, when this entire incident may be the result of some individuals exhibiting a blatant and careless disregard for their own lives.
Goes to show you cannot choose the consequences of your choices, yet so many act as if you can ..... if you don’t want to get burnt choose instead to not play with fire.