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San Jose father incredulous his son could have taunted deadly tiger (Photo of tiger grotto)
Oakland Tribune ^ | 12/27/2007 | Lisa Fernandez, Mark Gomez and Julia Prodis Sulek

Posted on 12/27/2007 10:05:26 AM PST by knuthom

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I have a theory as to how the tiger escaped. Look at the picture of the tiger grotto, specifically at the walls at the sides of the enclosure. The fencing that runs along the top of the wall doesn't go the entire way. A leap from the grotto to the top of the wall, where the fencing ends, might have been possible.
1 posted on 12/27/2007 10:05:30 AM PST by knuthom
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To: knuthom

The parents are always amazed!


2 posted on 12/27/2007 10:08:37 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: knuthom

A “Not-My-Little-Angel!!” alert!


3 posted on 12/27/2007 10:09:44 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: knuthom

Sousa Sr would be better served shutting the hell up at this point.


4 posted on 12/27/2007 10:10:20 AM PST by MoMagic
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To: Red in Blue PA
Taunting or not, tigers are tigers and will at any opportunity, bite, maul and kill humans.

The very idea that tigers have the mental faculties to remember exactly who taunted them is totally ridiculous - but we live in an age where people even believe in human induced global warming!

5 posted on 12/27/2007 10:12:01 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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So you have evidence that tigers cannot cognitively target people who taunt them?


6 posted on 12/27/2007 10:13:43 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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So you have "evidence" that tigers have cognitive abilities?

.... and your degree is in??????????

7 posted on 12/27/2007 10:14:58 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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The very idea that tigers have the mental faculties to remember exactly who taunted them is totally ridiculous

I bet the two latter victims were never out of that tigers sight. Remember this was late at night and the zoo was pretty much empty. I bet after the tiger killed its first victim it was right behind the other 2 as they fled. It just caught up with them at the cafe.

8 posted on 12/27/2007 10:17:35 AM PST by Gator101 (Don't tase me, Bro!)
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Discrimination studies using the touch screen

A new method for testing dogs cognitive abilities

Friederike Range, Ulli Aust, Michael Steuer, Ludwig Huber

A computer-automated touchscreen testing procedure for studying learning, social, and physical cognition in the dog (Canis familiaris) is described. Generally, the dogs’ task during each trial was to touch with their nose at images that are defined as positive by the experimenter. After an autoshaping procedure, in which the dogs learned to deliver the touch response to images, they were trained on two visual discrimination problems. In the first, the subjects learned to correctly choose between two simultaneously presented images; here we used simple forms (circle and square). In the second, they learned to look carefully to discriminate between two sets of stimuli, one consisting of three colour photographs of underwater scenes, the other of three arbitrary colour drawings. After successful performance on these problems, dogs were submitted to a dog-landscape visual categorization problem. They were first trained to discriminate between a large (N=60) set of dog pictures and an equally large set of landscape pictures. After reaching a criterion of 80% correct first choices, the dogs received 4 test sessions including 40 novel positive and negative stimuli. They successfully transferred their knowledge to the novel stimuli. We conclude that the touchscreen-based operant method for investigating cognition in dogs is valid and that it allows for direct comparison of cognitive abilities with other species (e.g., pigeons and monkeys).

http://www.nc.univie.ac.at/index.php?id=14571


9 posted on 12/27/2007 10:18:55 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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I’m still trying to figure out what the cops thought was supposed to happen when they yelled at the man-eating tiger to “Stop!” For all they know, he didn’t even speak English. I have a 120-pound Doberman who, sufficiently annoyed at an intruder, wouldn’t stop were I yelling it in his ear. And a 300-pound tiger is going to look up and say, “Oh, sorry, didn’t realize you’d be upset.” I don’t think it works that way.


10 posted on 12/27/2007 10:19:12 AM PST by lapster
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To: MoMagic

My thoughts, exactly.

He’s not enough in a state of shock to prevent him from appearing on GMA, it would appear......


12 posted on 12/27/2007 10:22:24 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas!)
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Remember this was late at night and the zoo was pretty much empty

Oops...just correcting myself. I guess it wasn't too late (around 5pm) but other stories I read say the zoo was close to closing and nearly empty. Thus I bet the victims were probably the only people the tiger really encountered as it attacked.

13 posted on 12/27/2007 10:22:42 AM PST by Gator101 (Don't tase me, Bro!)
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The U.S. Department of Agricultural, which regulates some facilities that work with live animals, will also investigate to attack, spokesman Jim Rogers said.

The department of agricultural WHAT?

I swear, some days I don't know how proofreaders keep their jobs.
14 posted on 12/27/2007 10:23:21 AM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: knuthom

I agree with your theory. The tiger could have jumped that far, according to what I learned earlier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1944711/posts?page=113

My post 113 there shows some tiger facts found on ask.com.


15 posted on 12/27/2007 10:25:40 AM PST by Judith Anne (I refuse to have a tagline anymore. Nope. Not gonna do it. Won't go there.)
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To: zerosix

“The very idea that tigers have the mental faculties to remember exactly who taunted them is totally ridiculous”.


You obviously don’t spend much time with animals.


16 posted on 12/27/2007 10:26:44 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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My thoughts, exactly. He’s not enough in a state of shock to prevent him from appearing on GMA, it would appear......

If it turns out Junior and his pals did something stupid - like oh say stick their legs over the moat, thus enabling the tiger to escape ... the old man could be looking at a lawsuit for the cost of one Siberian tiger, and some medical expense costs for his friends.
17 posted on 12/27/2007 10:27:37 AM PST by MoMagic
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First, I have to admit I did laugh at the police yelling “stop” before the shot him. “Stop or we’ll shoot”?

What kind of taunting do you do to a tiger “your momma wears army boots” probably won’t work, or “you can’t catch me”.

What they are calling taunting is probably more like ‘teasing’, like they hung their arms over the edge, waving them around, and when the tiger jumped they’d pull back.

My guess would be that one time the tiger just got a particularly good jump, managed to hook a toe in a crack in the wall somewhere, just enough to get a hold up to get over the fence. Maybe there’s a little greenery growing on the wall that he was able to get some traction on or something.


18 posted on 12/27/2007 10:31:22 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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The very idea that tigers have the mental faculties to remember exactly who taunted them is totally ridiculous

The tiger is, and has been for the past thousands of years, a hunter. To say that this animal could not track a specific target seems very far fetched. I would understand your statement if the attacks were random, but the tiger chose it's victims.
19 posted on 12/27/2007 10:35:13 AM PST by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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Seems a good distance from the grotto to where the two who fled were tracked. If the place were empty or not, seems this tiger tracked them down. Anyone else its way probably would have suffered the same fate. It doesn’t appear to be chance that this tiger just happened upon them. I say he hunted them, which would indicate the tiger was acting on instinct to rid itself of a threat.


20 posted on 12/27/2007 10:39:49 AM PST by Bruinator ("It's the Media Stupid.")
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