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Requesting Math Help (Vanity)
12/14/07 | self

Posted on 12/14/2007 2:03:12 PM PST by murphE

My 9th grader needs to write a 10 page term paper for her 10th grade honors math class. (Which I find strange). Anyway she is having a difficult time choosing a topic - it cannot be a biography. She was thinking about writing about math used in computer graphics, but she is having a difficult time finding sources that are written anywhere near her level. She needs at least one text as a source - it cannot all be from the internet.

Any of you math teachers, general brainiacs, computer geniuses etc. out there who could offer suggestions on a topic and or sources we'd both be extremely grateful.

Please post any questions or responses to malokitty (that's my girl)

Much thanks in advance,

murph


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: geometry; math; mathematics
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To: murphE; Malokitty

Lots of ideas on some of these sites:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=math+%2B+%22term+paper%22


41 posted on 12/14/2007 8:40:09 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: martin_fierro

Good post.

I thought I was having flashbacks from 2005, Korea.


42 posted on 12/14/2007 8:42:31 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: murphE
Kids with math skills need cultivation....future will belong to them...

Was just looking at these:

The Mathematician's Brain: A Personal Tour Through the Essentials of Mathematics and Some of the Great Minds Behind Them (Hardcover)
by David Ruelle (Author)


43 posted on 12/15/2007 11:32:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Malokitty
See above link at post # 43 for text for the books. Math , just about any math and the required logical thinking will put you ahead of the competition....it is super important.

I worked with a student with a student using the book....The Story of Numbers....How Mathematics has shaped Civilization...seemed to be a book that was at about the right level ...by John McLeish...

She really enjoyed it,....we did puzzle how the babylons taught their children to do fractions in a base 60 number system....

Link to Amazon:

The Story of Numbers: How Mathematics Has Shaped Civilization (Paperback)

44 posted on 12/15/2007 11:46:36 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: murphE
Abbott and Costello: 13 X 7 = 28

Abbott and Costello" Give Me My Money

Unknown movie: 5 in to 25 goes 14 times!

-PJ

45 posted on 12/15/2007 11:58:21 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: murphE

Check out the Trachtenberg system. Interesting story behind it, too.


46 posted on 12/15/2007 12:02:28 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Irxfxs; murphE
I agree ... write a paper on pi and the day you have to present it, bring in a special pie for the teacher and the class ... they'll love it and the it will blow the teacher away.


47 posted on 12/15/2007 12:13:33 PM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: murphE
If she is interested in Pixar-style computer graphics, I suggest "The RenderMan Companion" by Steven Upstill.

The math can get a little complicated at times, but the book does show how math is useful in creating popular movies like "Ratatouille".

48 posted on 12/15/2007 12:16:00 PM PST by HAL9000 (Fred Thompson/Mike Huckabee 2008)
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To: The_Reader_David
Of course, as I joke when I teach the subject, if you know the RSA algorithm, you might be classed as a munition and find yourself subject to export control.

Didn't the government drop that, or is it still causing Phil Zimmerman problems, all these years later?

Mark

49 posted on 12/15/2007 3:25:55 PM PST by MarkL
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To: MarkL

I don’t know, but it’s still a good joke.


50 posted on 12/16/2007 10:22:06 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: All; RightWhale; coloradan; ShadowDancer; Clint N. Suhks; Lil'freeper; The_Reader_David; bert; ...
We both can’t believe how many responses this thread has generated! I knew there were a lot of smart people on this forum, but I am overwhelmed by how many of you have taken the time to generously share your knowledge and in some cases, humor.

Thanks for all of your help and suggestions - you've given my daughter plenty of information to get her started. I think I pinged everyone who responded, but if I missed anyone I apologize.

51 posted on 12/16/2007 10:34:02 AM PST by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE

You’re both very welcome. Tell your daughter the pressure is on ... we want a notarized photo of her report card otherwise we’ll be forced to organize a FReep at her school. ;)


52 posted on 12/16/2007 10:43:22 AM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Of course, as I joke when I teach the subject, if you know the RSA algorithm, you might be classed as a munition and find yourself subject to export control.

Didn't the government drop that, or is it still causing Phil Zimmerman problems, all these years later?

I don’t know, but it’s still a good joke.

For anyone who doesn't know (and might be interested), Phi Zimmerman is the guy who developed PGP. The problem is what "The_Reader_David" said... As open source software, PGP was released publicly, but as soon as it hit the Internet, the State Dept decided that PZ was in violation of munitions export laws, and he was hounded by the government for a number of years.

Mark

53 posted on 12/16/2007 10:48:06 AM PST by MarkL
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To: murphE

I’ll forward this to my 18 year old grandson who just aced math on his ACTs.


54 posted on 12/16/2007 10:50:01 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: murphE
You know, I think that it was touched on by some people here, but I think that a very interesting term paper could be done on mathematical applications in "normal life." I mean, every aspect of life. For instance, the AC current that lights your room requires imaginary numbers. The math required for use in microwave oven, and even the new inductive heat element ranges. The math involved in designing limited flow shower heads. The calculus required in painting oddly shaped structures. As has been posted, there are so many people who think that they never will need to use math. It seems that could be a very interesting project that could fill 10 pages, and at the same time, isn't just a paper of proofs.

Mark

55 posted on 12/16/2007 10:53:39 AM PST by MarkL
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To: MarkL
You know, I think that it was touched on by some people here, but I think that a very interesting term paper could be done on mathematical applications in "normal life."

For the mathematics behind another very practical application, you could look at tiling also.

56 posted on 12/16/2007 11:00:30 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: MarkL

Require imaginary numbers? Not really. But describing AC current (or for that matter electromagnetism) succinctly requires either the use of complex numbers (sums of real numbers and imaginary numbers*) or something with the same algebraic structure.

You can dodge actually using them, if you really don’t like complex numbers, by using square matrices of real numbers whose diagonal entries are equal, and whose off-diaganal entries are negatives of each other. (Of course, under matrix addition and multiplication, these are just a copy of the complex numbers under their usual addition and multiplication.)

*I know *you* know this, but other readers of the thread might not.


57 posted on 12/16/2007 11:01:00 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: murphE

I often wondered if there was some way to respond to everyone who responded to a topic — I guess not — you have to sift through and find every name.

Here’s an idea — it’s a wild conjecture on my part. Take a look at “Geodesy for the Layman.”

http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/PUBS_LIB/Geodesy4Layman/TR80003A.HTM#ZZ4

Note that Newton and Huygens (both from Protestant countries) thought there was an equatorial bulge, while Picard and Cassini (both from Catholic countries) believed in a polar bulge. I often wondered if this was the inspiration for “Gulliver’s Travels.” The novel came out in 1726, and the dispute wasn’t settled until 1735. I’m not sure whether Swift had an interest in geodesy though.


58 posted on 12/16/2007 12:19:19 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: murphE

If you need a reference, there is a textbook called “Computer Graphics with OpenGL” by Hearn Baker. I used it when I was in college. As you can tell from the title, it’s mostly OpenGL, which I rabidly hated when we learned it, but it was still a decent textbook. Since it’s for a good cause, if you really have need of it, I’d be willing to part with it.


59 posted on 12/16/2007 3:59:24 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: murphE
Oops. I misstyped on the author's name. It's actually two authors: Donald Hearn and M. Pauline Baker.

PIMF.
60 posted on 12/16/2007 4:01:10 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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