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Clemens issues vehement denial ( through attorney of course ) ... claims slander
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12.14.07

Posted on 12/14/2007 8:40:56 AM PST by meandog

On Clemens' stance regarding claims in Mitchell Report that he used and was injected with banned performance-enhancing drugs from 1998-2001: ``Roger Clemens adamantly, vehemently and whatever other adjectives can be used, denies that he has ever used steroids or whatever the word is for improper substances. ``He is really concerned and upset that he has been named in this report based on the allegations of apparently, reading the report, based on a trainer (Brian McNamee) that he has had in the past. ``That's not a standard somebody should be held out in public to have done something as serious as have used steroids in baseball.''

In a release by Hardin's office earlier Thursday, NcNamee is described as a "troubled and unreliable witness" and "a former trainer who worked with Clemenson the Toronto Blue Jays and the New York Yankees, (who) has repeatdedly denied these current claims, including in June of this year whe he was first contacted by federal investigators. According to McNamee, after a day of repeated denials to federal investigators, he changed his story under the threat of federal criminal prosecution. He says he was then forced by those federal prosecutorial authorities to tell the same story for inclusion in the Mitchell Report."

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: cheat; clemens; dirtbag; druggie
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To: Alberta's Child

As my son said, tell me something I don’t know. But the use of this stuff is endemic. It is used by participants in every sport, including a lot of high school football plays, and the coaches and managers looked the other way, because the pressure to win is so great.


41 posted on 12/14/2007 10:16:01 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: meandog

Seems like a simple situation to me...the innocent ones sue in civil court for slander and the guilty ones get an asterisk or get booted. This will go on for years and years and years.


42 posted on 12/14/2007 10:16:47 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Perdogg
4) Andro was neither illegal nor a banned substance when McGuire took it. I wonder if the concept of ex post facto means anything to any one?

In the report it notes that steroids were banned in 1991 by fay vincent.

43 posted on 12/14/2007 10:22:19 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Labyrinthos
Mitchell acknowledges that in the report. But that vast, overwhelming majority of the accusations refer to stuff that was illegal and/or forbidden by MBL rules at the time of use. He uses McGuire and Bonds as evidence that MLB, from the Commissioner's office right down the chain of command, buried their heads as the use of juice became widespread.

You saw the report.

Mitchell timelines it back to 1991 when Fay Vincent banned steroids in a memo.

Technically, MLB should have stated an opinion when McGwire was using andro openly.

44 posted on 12/14/2007 10:23:57 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Gay State Conservative
This has nothing to do with Congress.IIRC,this investigation was put in motion by Major League Baseball itself.

Congress threatened MLB with yanking its anti-trust status if it didn't get rid of steroids, so Bud put Mitchell on the trail to buy some time. In the meantime, MLB cut a deal with the union to put in place testing and punishments for test failures. Selig was in charge when all this happened, let it happen, and now thinks he's the sheriff to rid sports of steroids. What a loser.

45 posted on 12/14/2007 10:24:55 AM PST by Go Gordon (The short fortune teller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large.)
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To: meandog
Gearing up for a lawsuit? Hope so, love to see cheats lose big time!

I believe Clemens didn't sue when Canseco's book came out. One of the ESPN analysts said it best - anybody who is guilty is not going to risk losing a lawsuit.
46 posted on 12/14/2007 10:25:13 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: meandog

The day he struck out 21 batters, his mother called him and said that that was his ticket to the Hall of Fame. Maybe not. He may wind up sitting on the bench next to Pete Rose.


47 posted on 12/14/2007 10:28:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: aroundabout
Is there anything at all besides one mans word against another?

Varies from case to case.

In clemens and petites case, no, but alot of other ballplayers paid via check and they have the copies, its all over the report.

48 posted on 12/14/2007 10:28:33 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Badeye
Note that no one has sued Canseco....and the media who bashed Canseco earlier are now having to agree with him

Yep. Somewhere Canseco, like him or not, is laughing his ass off.


Exactly. If they were afraid to sue Canseco, I'd imagine they are really afraid of suing Mitchell.
49 posted on 12/14/2007 10:32:51 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Gay State Conservative

Clemens was real-deal Hall of Famer without steroids. Also an obnoxious, arrogant bastard. Still, I hate to see him blow it. When he made an almost respectable comeback this season, I strongly suspected chemical assistance.

I think the real reason he left the Bosox was because the Framingham Chief of Police publicly pulled his gun permit, after he got into an affray with the Houston Cops in bar with his brother.

How can a prominent person live without protection? Especially in Framingham?


50 posted on 12/14/2007 10:33:30 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: RobbyS
As my son said, tell me something I don’t know. But the use of this stuff is endemic. It is used by participants in every sport, including a lot of high school football plays, and the coaches and managers looked the other way, because the pressure to win is so great.

The son of one of my mothers friends wanted to try out for the baseball team with his friends.

Junior Varsity, not even varsity.

His friends hit the needle and juiced, he didn't (not out of health concerns, the kid just hates needles), He didn't make the team, he now accepts that if he wants to make the team, he either gets over his fear of needles and uses, or tries and fails.

His mother would rather he not play at all and has told him he can not use steroids, but she hates the fact that thats the only he would make that team.

I saw a picture of the team coach, I can take a pretty good guess where some players get the stuff from.

51 posted on 12/14/2007 10:34:27 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

‘Clemens was real-deal Hall of Famer without steroids.’

Good luck proving that statement.


52 posted on 12/14/2007 10:35:07 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: advertising guy

I wonder how many on the “list” are Republicans?


53 posted on 12/14/2007 10:37:55 AM PST by elder5 (Reelect ROSSI '08)
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To: Sonny M
Androstenedione wasn’t technically a steroid.
54 posted on 12/14/2007 10:38:56 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences)
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To: Badeye

It’s axiomatic.


55 posted on 12/14/2007 10:40:08 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Perdogg

Where were these kind of “watch dogs” when JFK’s doctor was injecting him with speed and other drugs, on a daily basis? He, the doctor, should have been charged and had his medical license jerked, just like Elvis’s doctor’s was.


56 posted on 12/14/2007 10:40:53 AM PST by lolhelp
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Its laughable today. Yesterday morning, maybe you could make the claim.

Not since 2 PM yesterday.


57 posted on 12/14/2007 10:41:56 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: elder5

another thread somewhere is looking and will report on a fresh thread ( they said)


58 posted on 12/14/2007 10:43:11 AM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills namedo us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
How can a prominent person live without protection? Especially in Framingham?

North of Route 9 is safe and solidly middle class.It's south of Route 9 where Framingham looks like a slum of Rio De Janeiro.With all his money I'm surprised he settled anywhere in Framingham rather than in Dover,Sherborn or Sudbury.

59 posted on 12/14/2007 10:43:20 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Perdogg
Androstenedione wasn’t technically a steroid.

At the time, there was some debate about it, but it was legally recognised as a steroid by the gov't in 2004 under the anabolic steroid control act.

That said, its defined (via wikipedia, take this was a pound of salt) as "a 19-carbon steroid hormone produced in the adrenal glands and the gonads as an intermediate step in the biochemical pathway that produces the androgen testosterone and the estrogens estrone and estradiol.".

The world anti-doping agency has always considered it a steroid.

60 posted on 12/14/2007 10:51:13 AM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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