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1 posted on 12/05/2007 6:59:50 AM PST by BenLurkin
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How will HillaryCare deal with lifestyle choices?

It took 4 years after I quit smoking before I could even THINK about buying insurance on myself. Cost prohibitive.

Under National Healthcare, there’s no incentive to live a healthy lifestyle.

The Gubmint will fix you.


2 posted on 12/05/2007 7:04:47 AM PST by digger48
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The solution to the healthcare crisis is so simple and it will never be tried. Go back to the system we had 50 years ago.

Make everybody responsible for their own health care.

The system we have now gives the illusion that health care is free. The insurance company or your employer takes care of it. So who cares how much it costs. Basic economics, basic human nature.

On the other hand, everyone has to pay for their own home repairs. As a result, we price shop, we do some repairs on our own, we do preventative maintenance. We still have insurance for major disasters but normal repairs are not covered.

And here’s my prediction for the future: The government will force a national health care system on us, like what they have in Britain. And like Britain, the fat, the smokers, etc. will not get covered (but they’ll still pay the tax). Then private insurance and private hospitals will rise up and supply the health care needs of the wealthy. And zen-like, everything will be as it was before except with higher taxes.


4 posted on 12/05/2007 7:16:00 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: BenLurkin; Gabz; SheLion
Starting in 2008, Tribune Co., which owns newspapers such as the Chicago Tribune and the Baltimore Sun, will apply a monthly surcharge of $100 to family premiums of workers or dependents who use tobacco. Clarian Health, an Indianapolis-based hospital chain, will charge employees who are smokers $5 a paycheck

It would be nice if there was an option to forgo their insurance/benefit package.
An option to be paid .75 or 1.00 more per hour and not accept their insurance/benefit program would be a great move toward freedom and liberty.

Yeah, yeah...not gonna happen.

5 posted on 12/05/2007 7:46:52 AM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: BenLurkin
Now some employers are wielding a stick as well as a carrot. Employees at some companies who are overweight...will pay more for health insurance.

This won't last long. Has a disparate impact on women and minorities. Lawsuits on the way.

7 posted on 12/05/2007 7:57:29 AM PST by freespirited (I'm voting for the GOP nominee.)
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To: BenLurkin

Let’s scrap employer-provided health care. We all get our own and problem solved.


8 posted on 12/05/2007 7:57:59 AM PST by RockinRight (Rumors of Fred Thompson's death have been greatly exaggerated.)
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To: BenLurkin
If an employee has a condition or engages in an activity over which he/she has any control (obesity,smoking,high blood pressure,etc) I have no problem with them being charged more for insurance premiums.However,they must also be rewarded,premium-wise,for successfully dealing with these things.IOW,employers must be required to offer carrots....*financial* carrots....if they’re going to be using financial sticks.
9 posted on 12/05/2007 8:00:35 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: BenLurkin

Here’s what I support:

-no more employer provided healthcare
-the increased competition will create affordable insurance plans of all types, where most people with reasonable means would choose to get plans that they pay for office visits but major surgeries are covered by the insurance
-that, with a combination of Health Savings Accounts, is the way to go


10 posted on 12/05/2007 8:01:27 AM PST by RockinRight (Rumors of Fred Thompson's death have been greatly exaggerated.)
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To: BenLurkin

We see a version of this story every 3 months.

Crackdown on smokers, trans fat, whatever. Blah, blah.


13 posted on 12/05/2007 8:32:48 AM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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