[zeugma]

I've a question for whoever out there might be unlucky enough to be burdened with the MS-Vista OS. Did Microsoft really remove the telnet program?

I've heard rumors to that effect, but would like confirmation. 

Granted, without a really good reason to use it on a completely isolated network, anyone who runs a telnet daemon deserves to be strung up over a vat of boiling oil and slowly lowered into it. That doesn't make telnet any less of a multifunction battleclub from a troubleshooting perspective.

[dayglored]

> Granted, without a really good reason to use it on a completely isolated network, anyone who runs a telnet daemon deserves to be strung up over a vat of boiling oil and slowly lowered into it. That doesn't make telnet any less of a multifunction battleclub from a troubleshooting perspective.

I don't know if they removed it from Vista.

But seriously, do you know anybody using Vista, who knows that you can use telnet for things other than the default term (e.g. "telnet mailserver.foo.com 25" to talk to SMTP/sendmail)? I don't know anybody that savvy, who is running Vista... just (l)users with Vista Home Edition because they had no choice.

[KoRn]

"I've heard rumors to that effect, but would like confirmation."

Wow. I haven't heard about that. Did they supposedly remove the telnet client or server? If true, it would be quite a surprise(well not really). Telnet is terrible to use for anything you wouldn't want everyone else to know about, but can be useful for certain troubleshooting situations. Removing telnet would be just stupid. What's next? Are they going to remove Ping? lol

[antiRepublicrat]

Granted, without a really good reason to use it on a completely isolated network, anyone who runs a telnet daemon deserves to be strung up over a vat of boiling oil and slowly lowered into it.

You can watch Star Wars in ASCII art over Telnet.

telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl

[supercat]

I've a question for whoever out there might be unlucky enough to be burdened with the MS-Vista OS. Did Microsoft really remove the telnet program?

Presenting a command shell via telnet is reckless. On the other hand, telnet is just fine for some low-security purposes like retro-BBS games. Sure the passwords are sent in the clear, but that's true of 90% of web passwords anyway (well, the latter are base64 encoded, but may as well be in the clear).

[smith288]

I've a question for whoever out there might be unlucky enough to be burdened with the MS-Vista OS. Did Microsoft really remove the telnet program?

No they didnt. Its still available from the Programs "add/remove features" area in the control panel.