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Jack Carter: What Really Happened at Minot AFB
Project Camelot ^ | 11-23-07 | Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy

Posted on 11/30/2007 2:03:06 PM PST by Renfield

A Minot airman has supplied Project Camelot with detailed answers to these and other questions. The information is of such importance that we have felt obliged to present it as a stand-alone follow-up report.

The name we have given our source, Jack Carter, is a pseudonym. We have not yet met him, but have conducted extensive correspondence by e-mail. We are confident that he is exactly who he says he is: an experienced airman with extensive personal experience of nuclear weapons security procedures at Minot AFB.

We believe that nothing we are reporting here is classified or constitutes any breach of National Security. Our source is patriotic and responsible and he chose not to divulge certain information which was not pertinent to an analysis of what may actually have occurred.

The e-mail transcript - essentially a written interview - follows. It is slightly edited and abbreviated for clarity, and we have omitted a number of personal references and identifying characteristics from his report to protect his identity. Jack has given his permission for us to release the following which was reviewed and approved by him prior to publication.....

(Excerpt) Read more at projectcamelot.org ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: airplane; barksdale; china; military; minot; nukes; security
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I am curious as to what Freepers with military/National Security experience have to say about this article. There are so many security protocols attendant to nuclear weapons handling, that the Minot incident cannot have been a simple "accident" or "oversight". The mainstream media have not given this incident adequate scrutiny.

I was not previously familiar with the Will Thomas whose articles are also mentioned in this article (and admittedly his stuff isn't the sort of material that freepers would normally read), but I had already come, independently, to the conclusion that the Minot incident was a Chinese intelligence operation, a shot across the bow of our defense establishment, to let them know that our security of our National Command Authority has been fully compromised. What say you?

1 posted on 11/30/2007 2:03:07 PM PST by Renfield
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To: Renfield

It is best if this isn’t discussed. You’ll understand in the future why.


2 posted on 11/30/2007 2:11:38 PM PST by mnehring (..one candidate did not display any moderateness or liberalism...Fred Thompson - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Renfield

You probably didn’t have to excerpt it.


3 posted on 11/30/2007 2:11:59 PM PST by saganite
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To: Renfield

These weapons are very destructive and detonating a large multimegaton-sized warhead anywhere is asking for a nuclear winter. Just one might do the trick. The amount of fallout, if detonated in North America, could wipe out the entire U.S. Everything after that is overkill. Mutually Assured Destruction. [The W80, of course, is a smaller warhead.]


Any comments on the above?


4 posted on 11/30/2007 2:14:27 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

To put it gently? Hyperbole.


5 posted on 11/30/2007 2:17:01 PM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Renfield

"This can't be good..."

6 posted on 11/30/2007 2:17:35 PM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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To: Renfield

I’m just getting into the interview, but 1 thing I notice right-off is that the airman/interviewee refers to “SAC”. I assume that means the now-defunct Strategic Air Command. Now that could mean this guy is an old-head who is using the old term for Air Combat Command, or it could be an indicator that this is all BS. Still reading...


7 posted on 11/30/2007 2:17:50 PM PST by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Uriah_lost
Kinda loses it credibility doesn’t it?
8 posted on 11/30/2007 2:18:31 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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pflr


9 posted on 11/30/2007 2:19:05 PM PST by crghill (Christianity...setting women free since 0 a.d.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Reads like someone of whom, their entire military knowledge comes from movies and video games.


10 posted on 11/30/2007 2:20:33 PM PST by mnehring (..one candidate did not display any moderateness or liberalism...Fred Thompson - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Renfield

I was a USAF munitions systems specialist in the 1990’s and all the procedures he describes are true. I even had the pleasure of getting “Jacked-Up” in the WSA!


11 posted on 11/30/2007 2:23:20 PM PST by OCC
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Oh yeah, this "Jack Carter" character is real credible.

"This incident is too complicated. The concern here is of course the utmost that we can have. Nuke weapons have been the most safeguarded items in history (except UFOs) because of what they could do if placed in the hands of the wrong people."

Everyone knows we guard our nukes better than we guard our UFOs.

12 posted on 11/30/2007 2:23:38 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: PeterPrinciple

For anybody with any understanding of fallout effects/patterns etc, yes it does. For most of the general public it looks like a good reason to run around screaming and waving their arms frantically. The effects of a nuclear detonation would be mostly emotional unless the perp was able to put it in exactly the right place and the weather cooperated. The idea of a single detonation putting enough debris in the air to trigger a “nuclear winter” is simply foolish. Mt St Helens put more debris up than our whole arsenal could likely produce even if they were all near-ground burst.


13 posted on 11/30/2007 2:25:49 PM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Yo-Yo
Everyone knows we guard our nukes better than we guard our UFOs.

...that's right where I stopped reading. It was an interesting ride up till that point.

14 posted on 11/30/2007 2:25:55 PM PST by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Renfield

“Nuke weapons have been the most safeguarded items in history (except UFOs) because of what they could do if placed in the hands of the wrong people”.

OK, I stopped reading right there. The guy is pretty plausible and I say that from being in the AF 20 years and having had the pleasure of serving in SAC for 2 of those years. The individual obviously has knowledge of the processes involved but as some other poster here noted, there is no SAC anymore. His reference to nuclear winter and UFO’s kind of finished off all credibility as far as I’m concerned.


15 posted on 11/30/2007 2:30:24 PM PST by saganite
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To: Renfield

Honestly it sounds like one hell of a tale, and reads like a Dale Brown novel.

I don’t have enough direct information to credit or discredit this story, and will leave that for ohters...


16 posted on 11/30/2007 2:32:17 PM PST by Bean Counter (On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero...)
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To: mnehrling

“...It is best if this isn’t discussed. You’ll understand in the future why....”

Wrong. If our military command structure cannot secure our nuclear stockpile, then there is no issue more worthy of discussion. This issue dwarfs all others confronting us.


17 posted on 11/30/2007 2:42:29 PM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield
Wrong. If our military command structure cannot secure our nuclear stockpile, then there is no issue more worthy of discussion. This issue dwarfs all others confronting us.

So you believe the press release that this is a mistake? There are much, much bigger things going on here. Mistakes like this don't happen unless they are planned.

18 posted on 11/30/2007 2:47:54 PM PST by mnehring (..one candidate did not display any moderateness or liberalism...Fred Thompson - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: mnehrling

OF course I don’t believe the press. That’s the whole point. The question is, who planned this? I cannot imagine that the President or the Secretary of Defense was behind this. It would be too risky, both politically, and in terms of security. And don’t you find it strange that 7 servicemen connected with this event have died recently in “auto acccidents” and “suicides”?


19 posted on 11/30/2007 2:52:51 PM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

You may not want to open this can of worms....


20 posted on 11/30/2007 2:55:05 PM PST by mnehring (..one candidate did not display any moderateness or liberalism...Fred Thompson - Rush Limbaugh)
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