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Not a surprise to me...I know I have raised the ire of several Freepers when I have also said that I believed homosexuality is wired in.

If sexual perversion were truly a choice, why would anyone choose it??

1 posted on 11/28/2007 7:11:42 AM PST by Pharmboy
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I’m sure that we could then fix this with the proper application of drugs and electroshock therapy.

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2 posted on 11/28/2007 7:13:05 AM PST by taxcontrol
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If sexual perversion were truly a choice, why would anyone choose it??

Because it is pleasurable.

Most people enjoy power.

Most people also enjoy sex.

Pedophilia is a way for people who generally have little of either to fulfill their fantasies for sex and power.

One might as well ask why criminals choose to steal from people or assault people.

People choose to do evil things because these evil things satisfy their appetites in the quickest way.

5 posted on 11/28/2007 7:16:24 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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“There is nothing in this research that says pedophiles shouldn’t be held criminally responsible for their actions,” said Dr. James Cantor, CAMH Psychologist and lead scientist of the study, “Not being able to choose your sexual interests doesn’t mean you can’t choose what you do.”

Intolerance! < /s>

7 posted on 11/28/2007 7:17:04 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Bush is destroying the solar system:The ice caps on Mars are shrinking too." --Right_Wing_Madman)
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Yet more “evidence” for the “it’s not my fault therefore I’m not responsible” crowd....


8 posted on 11/28/2007 7:17:30 AM PST by KenHorse (I have the heart of a Liberal. I keep it in a jar on my desk.)
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“If sexual perversion were truly a choice, why would anyone choose it??”

Therein lies the real moral discussion.

- If all sexual behavior is hard-wired, and gays and lesbians are “born this way”, then is pedophilia hard-wired as well? What about philanderers?

- And, if being “born this way” makes it a civil rights issue, then wouldn’t that same argument apply to pedophiles, philanderers, etc? To be moral, one must be a “free moral agent” (free to choose options), and “born this way” indicates that we are not free moral agents, right?

- Finally, if we can “cure” hard-wired pedophiles, can we then “cure” gays and lesbians? Or for that matter, make hetro people in bisexual beings so they can have a better chance at sexual pleasure?


9 posted on 11/28/2007 7:20:16 AM PST by TWohlford
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...said Dr. James Cantor, CAMH Psychologist and lead scientist of the study, “Not being able to choose your sexual interests doesn’t mean you can’t choose what you do.”

Exactly. Chosen behavior is separate from what one feels urges or desires to do.

10 posted on 11/28/2007 7:20:36 AM PST by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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“If sexual perversion were truly a choice, why would anyone choose it??”

lonely, lust, boredom, angry, weak minded

IMO, it may be wired but the wiring is self installed.


11 posted on 11/28/2007 7:24:01 AM PST by driftdiver
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Does this mean that pedophiles will be protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act?


12 posted on 11/28/2007 7:24:12 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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If sexual perversion were truly a choice, why would anyone choose it??

Because they like it?

15 posted on 11/28/2007 7:25:49 AM PST by Frapster (Arrrgghhh - hands off me booty, mate!)
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The study, published in the Journal of Psychiatry Research, challenges the commonly held belief that pedophilia is brought on by childhood trauma or abuse. This finding is the strongest evidence yet that pedophilia is instead the result of a problem in brain development.

It's probably both. Environmental effects can change brain structure, so they need to be able to rule that out.

Pedophiles have lower IQs, are three times more likely to be left-handed, and even tend to be physically shorter than non-pedophiles.

Caveat: The subset of pedophiles that get caught have these tendencies.

Journalists do get carried away.

16 posted on 11/28/2007 7:25:49 AM PST by ahayes ("Impenetrability! That's what I say!")
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Sin is inherited, just like genetic diseases. I am sure homosexuality and pedophilia are no exception.


19 posted on 11/28/2007 7:28:36 AM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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Not a surprise to me...I know I have raised the ire of several Freepers when I have also said that I believed homosexuality is wired in. If sexual perversion were truly a choice, why would anyone choose it??

I have not made up my mind on either side. There must be a plausible explanation as to how on the one hand God said some actions are an abomination to Him if some people through no choice of their own are just born that way. Of course then we are also told that before Esau was ever born into this flesh age doing good or bad God hated him. So then perhaps the soul placed in these flesh bodies has an only known to God a prior history.

23 posted on 11/28/2007 7:32:55 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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Next question: Does abuse or trauma not effect white matter development? There is no hardwiring in the brain.


30 posted on 11/28/2007 7:48:05 AM PST by dangus
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I think the bigger issue that is being missed is:

1.) Even if pedophiliac tendencies are "naturally occuring" due to a brain anomaly or defect does not make pedophilia right or morally acceptable.

2.) The same could be said about homosexuality. There may be species of animal life that have homosexual tendancies; however, this does not make it correct or morally acceptable.

There are a couple logical games at play. Firstly, the naturalistic fallacy (something occurs in nature, therefore, it must be acceptable or good). Biological processes for the most part are amoral. Secondly, if humans are reduced to merely animals then we would act on instinct through every aspect of life. However, the funny thing is choices require logic and that seperates us from the animal world by leaps and bounds... Every human behaviour cannot be reduced merely to animal instincts; and if these animal instincts are generally accepted as morally correct or right, we're doomed...

31 posted on 11/28/2007 7:50:32 AM PST by erikm88
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To: Pharmboy; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
"There is nothing in this research that says pedophiles shouldn’t be held criminally responsible for their actions," said Dr. James Cantor, CAMH Psychologist and lead scientist of the study, "Not being able to choose your sexual interests doesn’t mean you can't choose what you do."
..."but let's ease up on pedophiles, because there's really nothing wrong with any kind of innate human behavior," added the NAMBLA members, serial killers, and other perverts.
52 posted on 11/29/2007 10:57:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, November 27, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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