Epidemic Influenza And Vitamin D

Medical News Today ^ | 09/15/2006 | Dr. J. J. Cannell

[editor-surveyor]

"I do not get much sun, but (mainly my hands) get exposed to UV pretty frequently looking for fluorescence in drilled samples..."

That is similar to a therapy that has been used with tremendous success since the 1930s to trigger a strong immune response to fight sepsis. A small vial of blood is drawn, irradiated with intense UV, and reinjected. It used to be called "Photox," the 'ox' coming from the hydrogen peroxide that was used in conjunction.

[editor-surveyor]

Thanks for the ping.

It must be fear-mongering season again. Big Pharma’s coffers need filling, I guess.

[editor-surveyor]

"Polar Bear liver off the list for me. :)"

Darn, just when I was beginning to develop a taste for it....

[neverdem]

Like, *PING*, dude!

Cheers!

Thanks for the ping. I already thanked Born Conservative. IMHO, redundant pings don't hurt unless someone is prone to getting wrapped around the axle. That's a personal problem, IMHO. I often regret finding pings that I unknowingly missed.

I find this hypothesis of relative vitamin D deficiency and seasonal disease quite provocative.

Despite the thread having been downgraded to chat, I wanted to find a decent review article on antimicrobial peptides. They were not mentioned when I went to school.

Epithelial antimicrobial peptides in host defense against infection

Welcome to Microbiology and Immunology On-line appears to be updated on a regular basis. I use it for a reference.

[Orange1998]

Those articles are dry, I like the chat better. :)

[Oorang]

Thanks Joe.

[Smokin' Joe]

You’re welcome, Oorang!

[wideminded]

Doctors and nutritionists have told us for decades that doses of vitamins above the RDA are unnecessary and even harmful.

That is still true if you're talking fat-soluble vitamins such as A and D--high doses are actually poisonous.

In the case of vitamin D, the Reference Daily Intake is 200 IU. As the article in this thread points out, 20 minutes in the sun will cause the skin to produce 100 times as much.

But water-soluble vitamins such as the B series, C, and a few others are relatively safe even at 500-700% RDA on a daily basis.

I have been taking much higher doses of some these vitamins for many years with no apparent ill effects.

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Saving...

[Oorang]

Excellent rant. A couple of weeks ago my endocrinologist told me to increase my vit D from 400 to 2000. Living in Washington state I don't have to worry about getting too much from the sun, at least in the winter time. Summers, at 2000' in the Cascades can get a bit warm.

[Domestic Church]

The 1918 pandemic had a CFR of 12%.The H5N1 current CFR is around 80% with an expected attenuation to 64% after a pandemic year. If this jumps at the current CFR the clock will be turned back several centuries.

[djf]

Hey, I’m a webfoot also!
I usually take 4000-5000 units a day. Sometimes a bit more. It’s fat soluble and your body can store it, so I like to take enough so that if I miss a day, I don’t sweat it.

I need to get up into the Cascades. Alpine Lakes area. Mt. Stuart. Used to go up there four or five times a year.
There’s some pretty serious hiking in that neck of the woods.

[grey_whiskers]

Thanks for the other articles on the antimicrobial peptides, and the "Welcome to Microbiology and Immunology On-line ".

They are hereby thrown onto my ever-burgeoning reading pile.

Full Disclosure: I went out and bought some vitamin D supplements today, began taking them. Not too much chance for direct sunlight on bare skin in Minnesota this time of year.

Cheers!

[Coleus]

dr. hoffman recently stated on his radio show that when he feels a cold coming on he takes 50,000 IU of vitamin-D.

[Vicki]

Although we take a daily multi vitamin, we recently added more Vitamin D. Here in Washington State I have heard that we have more cases of MS than anywhere else in the U.S. Wonder if that has something to do with the lack of sunshine for months in the winter or all the rain? Wonder if Vitamin D could help with MS?

[SunkenCiv]

The race to put a hurt on the flu, Researchers seeking a ‘universal vaccine’
star ledger | November 18, 2007 | KITTA MacPHERSON
Posted on 11/22/2007 8:39:28 PM EST by Coleus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1929437/posts

[devere]

I have read that adolescent Vitamin D deprivation is an MS risk factor. I don’t know if Vitamin D is of any use in treating MS. There is a 35 year old mega-vitamin cure for MS, published by Dr. Fred Klenner, a Duke Medical School graduate:
http://www.tldp.com/issue/11_00/klenner.htm

[neverdem]

Enter vitamin D and multiple sclerosis into the query box at PubMed. Then click on go. You might want to start with the review hits first. Most of the titles are links to abstracts, i.e. summaries. Some titles have no abstract. Some link to free articles.

[Global2010]

Even in the PNW we go out and sun bathe in the Vitamen D.

Will heal all the intrusive medical care.

Regardless a very value able ping.

Don’t cover wounds sit in the sun/which leaves me to wonder how close to daily outings and sunshine did his ward have?

I don’t think giving his patients unless they were under fed doses of D by mouth helped...I think his ward had more sunlight time.

All it takes is about a few 10 min intervals to get D.

Hooey on all the tan salons.

We sit out at 68 degrees and soak up sun. Remember we live in a rain forrest on the coast not in Baja/Fuji ect...

[Global2010]

Oh remember back in St Kolbes time (prior to Austwich)

TB patients they made them sun for therapy.

Also walk around a bit to bring up lung junk.

Man what we could learn from the old Medical books.