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To: Golden Eagle

Thanks for sharing that with me.....didn’t know the history. Just that it works, was free , let me utilize old hardware that would have been tossed due it’s lack of ability to keep up with new MAC or Windows OS’s and didn’t establish or sustain a monopoly on minimum number of common users like myself.

Never feel like yer intruding at FR.....You have good info share it !

Stay safe !


47 posted on 11/25/2007 6:28:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

You’re welcome, and I’ll admit it’s hard to beat the price of free but when you consider every communist government in the world is standardizing on it then you start to see there is a price being paid. The next step is when we start seeing legislatures or government officials here in the US trying to pass similar rules here in the US requiring our various government offices use it, which have so far thankfully all been shot down, but there is a strong leftist movement behind this stuff few know about. If you’d like some links let me know.


48 posted on 11/25/2007 6:48:54 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Squantos; Golden Eagle
I used to have an "interesting" job with the DoD. One day, monkeying around with a Windows NT server, we discovered an escrow crypto key buried in the guts of the operating system. The organization whos name was associated with the key wasn't "supposed" to be doing operations inside borders of CONUS, so we wondered if it was real or not. I worked for a DRU (direct reporting unit) to Air Staff and we reported this through channels. Lo and behold, the very next release didn't include the escrow key. The next service pack removed it from our system. We received no feedback from above, which isn't uncommon.

Even today, I've analized Windows systems which haven't had a single software package added to them and they're trying to contact various places out there on the net on various port numbers. Why? Good question. Not all of the communications were to Microsoft.

My view is this. I've been in the business of securing communications and data for a long time. Windows simply isn't a viable platform to perform these functions. Microsoft tells me I can "trust them", but they won't prove that they can be trusted. The guys you mention might not be the greatest folks on this planet, but thier operating systems have been scrutinized by far too many others for much to get past. The same can't be said about MS. In addition, MS has a deplorable business reputation. I work for state gov't now, but when I was a consultant, it was generally thought to simply be "bad luck" to enter partnership with MS at any level. I've got plenty of horror stories, but they're not worth repeating here. Most can be found on Google.

I wasn't going to mention this here, but my favorite is really FreeBSD, and then OpenBSD for firewalls.

Stallman is known to be a nutcase. :-) ...as is Theo Deradt, although he seems to be a malicious nutcase.

Oh..."Slow-laris"? Nah...not going back there! :-)
50 posted on 11/25/2007 6:59:50 PM PST by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Squantos; hiredhand; Golden Eagle
Thanks for sharing that with me

Don't be taken in by his lies and libel. He is, by far, the most proven liar on these tech discussions, and has been banned multiple times for his abuse.

Torvalds' (the creator of Linux) father was communist, but what GE won't tell you is that this fact caused a lot of friction between them. GE also won't tell you that Torvalds' parents divorced when he was young, and he was not raised by his father.Of course, this unfair "sins of the father" that GE is trying to pull is complete BS. Interviews show that Torvalds is apolitical. All he wants is good software and considers open source to be a development model, not a philosophy.

What GE also won't tell you is that the tools owned by the radical socialist Stallman (or using his license) that appear in Linux also widely appear in other operating systems, such as Mac OS X. Or that he goes by number of available titles in Stallman's repository (not a nod to importance), including obscure libraries that are interesting to maybe a dozen people in the world and are optional installs in Linux.

He also won't tell you that Stallman and Torvalds often have very heated public disagreements because Torvalds doesn't mix politics and ideology with software, like Stallmand and our own Golden Eagle do.

Go ahead and try OpenSolaris though. But you're in for some heartache if you thought drivers for Linux were a problem.

56 posted on 11/26/2007 6:19:06 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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