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City resident butchers goats in basement (ROP, Syracuse, NY)
Syracuse.com ^ | November 15, 2007 | rbaker

Posted on 11/15/2007 10:08:02 PM PST by GinaLolaB

A Syracuse man who butchered two goats in his basement has been charged with unjustifiable killing of animals, city police said.

A neighbor called police after he heard what he thought was a woman screaming, police said. The neighbor went out to investigate the noise and saw Sharif Aden, 33, of 229 Maplehurst Ave., slitting the throats of the goats in the cellar, police said.

Aden told police he butchered the goats for their meat. Aden said that his religion forbids him to eat meat from an animal killed with a gun, police said.

SPCA Investigator Betsy Puffer told police Aden was already being investigated by her agency and that Aden was instructed to take the goats to a butcher and to not do the job himself, police said.

Aden was keeping the live goats in his cellar in violation of city code, Puffer said. The SPCA inspected the animals about four hours before Aden killed them, Puffer said. He was told at the time to get the animals out of the home and to not butcher the animals himself, she said.

Unjustifiable killing of an animal is a misdemeanor in the state's agriculture and markets law.


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To: GinaLolaB

Killing them? NAAAAH, I’m just dresing them. I hunt wild goat and this one wan’t dead so I put it out fo its misery. I will dontate some of the meat to homeless. It for my religion.

The libs must be in melt down.

But...but.. religion bad.....muslim religion good....killing animals bad...animal euthinasia good.... homeless....religon...(sound of gurgling and lib ‘brain’ melting). PLEASE some one reduce what I’m supposd to think to a bumpersticker!


21 posted on 11/15/2007 11:17:47 PM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: A1 Southern Man

But most importantly. Thank you Grandfather for leaving Syracuse around 100 years ago.


22 posted on 11/15/2007 11:20:40 PM PST by A1 Southern Man (Fred Thompson , the one who can win.)
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To: elli1

But were the deer living in your basement before you took them to the garage? I don’t have a problem with slaughtering animals for food. With a little luck I’ll be doing it myself next week. I just don’t like the fact that this guy is making suburban America look like downtown Kabul.


23 posted on 11/15/2007 11:21:32 PM PST by phrogphlyer
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To: GinaLolaB

“Aden said that his religion forbids him to eat meat from an animal killed with a gun”

Seems to me that they just keep making up rules as they go.


24 posted on 11/15/2007 11:49:25 PM PST by Tex Pete
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To: SatinDoll
While I don't see a problem with butchering your own food animals, I do have a problem with the grewsome method of ritual killing Muslims use. They should not be made to suffer. Plus the cult of Islam does not prohibit eating an animal killed with a gun, or a bolt. It just makes the "fun" of dancing in puddles of blood ritual more difficult, and takes away the "fun" of watching the terrified animal die slowly away.

It is also illegal to raise livestock in your basement.
All that raw sewage is put into the storm drain system, which in most cities is separate from the sewage systems.

Most towns/cities have by-laws preventing the raising of farm animals within city limits and on property not zoned for such use.

Goat milk is mostly used for lactose intolerant babies, not 'organic markets', which your friend would not qualify for anyways, for several reasons, one being having her back yard certified toxin free. Then there are feed issues, which she would not be able to prove is organic, and can't certify since she has no control over growing it. No doubt there are niche markets for goat cheeze though, and it' relativly easy to make. You have to aquire a taste for it though, and some goats are better than others for making it.

A couple of goats wouldn't make a whole lot of milk and goat cheese however.

25 posted on 11/15/2007 11:51:18 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: weegee
"Or is it all about slitting the throat of the animal and letting it drown in its own blood?"

For Mohammad, it was all about slitting the animals throat and letting it drown in it's own blood. Mohammad knew Jews did this, but he didn't know why. But Mohammad didn't just copy what the Jews were doing, he had to do it "better", So extra gruesomeness was in order, plus a better name. "Halal" it is called.

26 posted on 11/15/2007 11:58:59 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: GinaLolaB
Miss Brigida, all you need to do is go home, eat your Soylent Green and don’t think about what lead up to the sorry circumstances you will find yourself in. The man was preparing his food. You remind me of the store clerk that stopped selling mice to a girl I knew, when told that they were food for her pet snake.

Even a hundred years ago New York had other groups that individuals complained about too. Complain about Muslims because they oppress women, wantonly murder in accordance with their Sharia Law and force ignominious mediocrity on humanity.

I think it is very shallow to be to disgusted by what a person eats. Watch some Andrew Zimmern episodes and refocus your abhorrence.

27 posted on 11/16/2007 12:01:58 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

No, he wasn’t just “preparing his food. He was torturing a poor animal for his sick cult’s required pleasures. No doubt he had sex with it in the weeks leading up to the killing day as well.


28 posted on 11/16/2007 12:09:05 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
All that raw sewage is put into the storm drain system, which in most cities is separate from the sewage systems.

???? Any basement I've ever seen has only a common sewage system drain. How could a private home be built with a separate basement drain to the storm system? Storm water would backup into the basement every time it rained hard.

Are you thinking about a naturally dug earthen root cellar that may allow ground seepage into the water table?

29 posted on 11/16/2007 12:12:02 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: GinaLolaB
Syracuse used to be a nice modern American city.

In the 1960's my family sometimes went to visit some elderly relatives who lived in Syracuse. During the 1990's I often flew into Syracuse on the way to another city in upstate New York. One time I decided to go find the street where my relatives used to live. I discovered that the neighborhood was now essentially a ghetto.

Although Syracuse has built a brand new mall, it was surrounded by a decaying industrial zone that looked rather like a nuclear bomb had gone off.

It appeared to me that Syracuse had lots of problems even before any Muslims showed up.

30 posted on 11/16/2007 12:18:10 AM PST by wideminded
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To: higgmeister
You don't know much about building construction , do you. Your weeping tiles , those that run from each corner of your basement and under the basement cement floor all tie in to a central drain, where it is then tied to a pipe leading to the city storm sewer system, or pumped out of the SUMP hole by your sump pump into a field out in your yard somewhere. Water seeps from the ground and gathers around your houses foundation, and seeps down along the basement walls when it rains. This is the system which keeps your basement from flooding (usually) Your brown water, toilet, bath water, dish water etc. Are hooked into a separate system independent of the ground water system. It all ties together to a central pipe which carries it from your house to the raw sewage pipe under the street in front of your home. Sometimes, in older homes and parts of the city, both ground water and sewage goes to the same pipe, and the city uses only a single pipe to carry it all away to the treatment plant. The problem with this system is heavy rains overflow the system, and raw sewage is dumped with rainwater untreated into the river your city uses to discharge treated sewage.

All new developments have these systems isolated to avoid sewage backing up when flooding occurs from heavy rain, floods etc. And to prevent dumping of raw sewage into rivers and lakes.

It stops all that poo from filling up your basement during storms and spring floods as well.

Most Cities have to replace the single pipe system in accordance with clean water treaties by certain dates.

31 posted on 11/16/2007 12:37:46 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: higgmeister
"???? Any basement I've ever seen has only a common sewage system drain. How could a private home be built with a separate basement drain to the storm system? Storm water would backup into the basement every time it rained hard."

Old houses, yes. Look a little harder in newer homes.

A simple check valve in your basement floor drain prevents ground water from backing up during storms. Install one if you don't have one. (your insurance co. probably requires you have one)

If you have an older home with a single pipe system, and you have a toilet in the basement, the check valve is only effective until water levels rise to the level of the toilet bowl. Then ground water and flooded sewer pipe pressure will blow all the sewage and ground water up through your basement toilet. And any other drain without a check valve.

32 posted on 11/16/2007 12:47:11 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
He was torturing a poor animal for his sick cult’s required pleasures. No doubt he had sex with it in the weeks leading up to the killing day as well.

How could slitting the throats of the goats be torture?

Humans have done that for at least ten thousand years and possibly as much as seventy thousand years. The Masai tribes of Kenya regularly bleed the throats of their cattle to mix the blood with milk. A hunter often tracks down his prey to kill it by hand when the arrow or bullet does not immediately bring it down.

I'll let you check the carcass for bestiality. I don't even want to think about that.

33 posted on 11/16/2007 12:49:30 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: GinaLolaB

the problem is I don’t want PETA types to do anything against the right to use animals for food.


34 posted on 11/16/2007 12:52:45 AM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

“No, he wasn’t just “preparing his food. He was torturing a poor animal for his sick cult’s required pleasures. No doubt he had sex with it in the weeks leading up to the killing day as well.”

You have a sick twisted mind.


35 posted on 11/16/2007 12:55:12 AM PST by A1 Southern Man (Fred Thompson , the one who can win.)
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To: phrogphlyer

I agree. It’s not a problem owning a domesticated cat either...but a change occurs when you have 100 or so craping all over. It’s called public health.


36 posted on 11/16/2007 12:57:45 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Old houses, yes. Look a little harder in newer homes.

A simple check valve in your basement floor drain prevents ground water from backing up during storms. Install one if you don't have one. (your insurance co. probably requires you have one)

I live in an old home in the South. I have no sump hole or floor drain. I have no corner tiles, french drain or link to the storm drains. I suspect that your Northern building codes may just be different.

37 posted on 11/16/2007 1:00:18 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

There’s more to it than that. There is a ritual involved, and depending on the sec/tribe, it can last weeks.


38 posted on 11/16/2007 1:00:25 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: higgmeister
"I live in an old home in the South. I have no sump hole or floor drain. I have no corner tiles, french drain or link to the storm drains. I suspect that your Northern building codes may just be different."

No basement?
I have seen some very old homes that have no weeping tiles and floor drains/sumps. It depends on the area as well, and how much ground water there is, and what codes were in place at the time. Sometimes you see basements floors badly heaved from ground water pressure, and foundation walls badly damaged. Codes vary from city to city, and of course location. Up here, towns/cities began installing a two pipe system in the mid sixties, and upgrading older systems as they reach the end of their life expectancy. It's flat here however, the prairies. Seperate sewer systems are a must.

Sometimes the old Red river floods turns the entire region into a lake which joins up with Lake Winnipeg further north to reform the old glacial lake, lake Agassiz.
Then you need a houseboat.

39 posted on 11/16/2007 1:16:48 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: A1 Southern Man
"You have a sick twisted mind."

No, but Mohammad did. So does the Ayatollah komieni, who published in his green book affirming Mohammad's teachings that having sex with goats, camels sheep etc. is ok. How could any Muzzie with a goat tied up in his garage for eid dinner resist?

40 posted on 11/16/2007 1:21:21 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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