Posted on 11/11/2007 11:10:08 PM PST by McCoMo
As far as I am aware, they have made confessions, but have not plead guilty. They entered no plea at their arraignment. They have no legal counsel and have filed for a public defender.
Decomp would begin immediately. However, keep in mind that she was in a cave, where it is cool to begin with.. and for most of the last week we were having a cold snap. Not so cold as to prevent decomp.. but would slow it down somewhat.
Often, the wife either knows or does not want to know, because she doesn't want to lose the man over it (for either financial or emotional reasons)
It's not necessarily strange that a younger guy would date an older woman. When I was 24, I dated a woman who was 39. (Then again she was a VERY cute 39 year old actress).
But for the average 44 year old woman with a young child, there are not very many men who would have been interested in dating her. Being desperate to keep him may have resulted in her being careless about the threat to her daughter
There was blood on this corpse, too. And the bowels & bladder void soon after death.
This happens more often that we know about, or would like to know, IMO.
My wife’s bio-father was a serial pedophile. He molested her, from the age of 6 until 11, as well as her brothers, and 88 other children. He did stuff like by a swimming pool, and then got his children to bring other kids over, ostensibly to play in the pool, but really to molest them. He brought pedophile buddies over to his house so he could share his kids with them (how the hell does one network with other pedophiles?). My wife dealt with a lot of guilt about bringing other kids over, and it was difficult to get her to understand that being a little girl, she was not responsible. Last I knew, he was still locked up in an Oklahoma prison. Never met him, and I better never meet him in the future. Anyway, there is no way anyone can convince me that her mother knew nothing about this during all those years.
Then, her mom married another real scumbag, who later raped my wife when she was about 14. Her mother did not give a damn about her kids, and used my wife basically as a lil slave, until I met her. They hate my guts for a couple reasons. I took their lil servant away, and when they tried to fill her head with BS such as how she could not legally move out until she was 21, I told her the truth. Perhaps another reason they hate me has something to do with me taking a baseball bat to the SOB one day, and putting his ass in the hospital for 2 months. They had come to our house, when my wife was 7 months pregnant with our first son, started an argument, and ended up attacking my wife. He got hospitalized, and my mother-in-law is now sporting a new set of teeth.
My wife has, since then, not spoken to her mother for over 20 years.. and we plan to keep it that way.
Her mother once said, after her first husband got sent up, that if she remarried, she would never divorce again... NO MATTER WHAT. She has lived up to that, and is still married to the scumbag. There is a small measure of justice, however, since now, none of her children speak to her, she never see’s her grandkids, he has turned into a worse drunk who beats on her, and she is the only one working, supporting his worthless ass.
One day, I shall piss on her grave.
I was definitely not trying to say that all men who date older women are child molestors, I guess what I’m trying to say is that I think there were signs that he was not the model stepfather. Maybe not each sign alone would be suspicious, but when there are several signs together, a mother should be cautious enough to, at the very least, not leave the person alone with the child. The story I read about an abuse call being placed regarding Rowan makes me even more certain of the fact that this woman let her child be killed.
Correction...
by a swimming
is supposed to be BUY a swimming pool.
I'm so glad they had three separate dogs hit on that car in order to find the beginning of the trail.
Have you heard any more about Spear's mother possibily being arrested since this morning?
No.. I have been combing the news services and talking to people around here who are usually in the loop. So far, nothing. The rumor is still floating, but no verification yet. Local cops are keeping tight-lipped.
Where's that wild applause graphic when I need it...?
Often? I refuse to believe that.
Seems there is one common thread in virtually ALL of these guys. Violence.
The wife and the entire family fears they will be killed.
Either that, or they've been mentally and emotionally neutered...which I guess is what you implied above.
;^)
Did anyone notice that Colleen last checked her myspace on Nov. 3?? The day her child was missing when she was supposedly looking for her?
Well, more often than not, that is a good thing.
Well, I cannot speak to other cases, but I can tell you that in the case of my wife’s mother, it is purely denial. She refuses to believe that which all evidence indicates happened, and it is purely because of her need to have a man. The rest of her family has told me a great deal about it. When her first husband got sent to the pen, she immediately began hitting the bars and such, leaving her kids with the grandparents.. and she openly stated that she was hunting for a husband. Virtually every nite she would drag one scumbag or another home.
Some women have a strong dependancy for a man in their life, any man, no matter how much of a lowlife they are. These women have serious issues regarding their own self-worth, and seem to base their self-worth in a man.
I have no clue as to why my mother-in-law turned out as she did. My wife’s grandparents are the nicest, most decent people you could ever meet, and their other daughters are (other than an obsession with materialism on the part of one of them) quite normal and decent people.
All the stuff my wife endured, and yet she is one of the most caring people you will ever meet. She is one of those people who worries herself sick over the problems of other people. I have always been amazed that she turned out as good as she did, knowing what I know of her childhood.
You should see how indignant my wife gets when she hears some scumbag justifying their bad acts by claiming they had a bad childhood. Few people have more justification than my wife does, and yet she turned out to be a decent human being.
She is wonderful... I do not deserve her.
No I had not noticed that. While I am not sure what to make of it, it is interesting.
Yes, I read that horrible description of the condition of her little body when they found it in the cave.
It just breaks my heart to know how she was treated, and especially in the last hours of her sweet life. I think about the comments describing her love for people, and loving to go to church, etc. To know that they desecrated, and put that child through such torture, and then threw her lifeless little body down that deep hole in the ground is...well, it is pure evil.
I hope the image of her little face looking up at him in the moonlight just before he strangled her haunts him every minute for the rest of his life. And, the stepdad...there are no words.
That is happening & its so sad. I can't imagine if my mother looked the other way if that was happening to me. I just feel so sad & depressed over these stories. Prayers for all the children...
I noticed it. A couple of things to consider: Could the log-in dates be based on GMT? Missouri is GMT +6 hrs, IIRC. So she could have logged in the evening of Nov 2--before she went to work and it would register as Nov 3 GMT. (I'm pretty much MySpace ignorant.)
Another thing that I thought is that she might have logged in to see if Rowan had left or sent her a message.
Or maybe she was looking for Chris as he was one of her buddies? Maybe by that time she “knew” something?
I have no idea about myspace times either...just took for granted they were the right times according to time zones.
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