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This is pretty goofy “proof”. For one thing people don’t replace computers every year, or even every two years. And even in things that people do replace regularly analysts know that high resale value doesn’t make it cheaper, it makes the second more affordable but that’s different. Then of course there’s the lame assumption that Windows users just throw away computers when they’re replaced, simply not true, we might not resell them but that doesn’t mean they stop being used, my wife has my previous machine, and the one before that will go to one of a variety of friends and relatives.


6 posted on 11/07/2007 3:06:08 PM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: discostu
Bought an XP system just over two years ago for $1800. It had a high end video card (that I had to replace last year because of an intermittent problem the manufacture would acknowledge) 2 GB of RAM, a 500GB hard drive. I had to purchase anti-virus and anti-spyware software. Office set me back about $200. Even with updated definitions, something got through and deleted my Windows directory. Yes, I could reinstall and restore, but it would take hours. I had my data backed up, but all the games, applications, drivers, etc., were going to have to be reinstalled. Ugh. As I was doing just that - and cursing mightily - my wife suggested that it may just be easier to purchase a new computer.

This machine was for the kids (15 and 11) so I took the eldest to CompUSA to help pick out a computer. On a Saturday there were about a dozen shoppers and little staff. We looked at the HP's, Compaqs, Acers, and store brands. A couple of machines were higher-end, but pricey. Few of them were fully functional. We couldn't find anyone to help us. When I started adding up all that we would need (new version of Office, new anti-virus, etc.) it was closing in on $2K. We could have cheaped out, but Vista ran like a dog on machines with less than 2 GB of RAM and built in graphics. My son really didn't like Vista. He was used to XP and called Vista "confusing." We then went to the Apple Store. Same day, but a world of difference. There were about a dozen employees servicing at least two dozen customers. The store was clean. The machines were all working. We were assisted right away. We ended up with a 20" IMac with 2 GB of RAM for about $1400. We did add IWorks for $79 which includes Office compatible word processing, spreadsheet, and presentation software. The new Leopard OSX is amazing and, according to my son, easy to use. If we feel an urge to use XP, the Mac comes with with Boot Camp and after installing his old copy of XP, it runs much faster than his old computer.

I have been a Wintel person since before Windows. I have owned many computers and have managed NT and Server 2003 networks with over 30 users. Between an expensive OS, constant threat of viruses and spyware, driver issues, hardware issues, etc., Microsoft has pushed me over to the other side. I will probably still deal with Windows at work (when I am on someone else's dime) but for my money, my time, and my sanity, I am buying Macs from now on.

20 posted on 11/07/2007 4:16:12 PM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: discostu
I know. Up until a few years ago I was still using the computer I bought in December of 1996 a Cybermax AMD K6-233 MMX with 64mb. It was my regular computer and was running XP at the end of it's lifespan. It did get upgrades (lots of them over time, memory 512mb, new AMD K6 550 processor, new BIOS flashed, multitude of hard drives, Ultra ADA133 controller, SCSI adaptec card for my Syquest Syjets, Creative Audigy Platinum for sound and more) but I didn't buy into the "you have to buy a new computer every year" BS.

The computer cost me $1600 back then, and the 10 years I've used it, it cost me $160 a year when you break it down. I know the resale value is nil, but the parts I used to upgrade it were able to be used in other computers.

My Dell Dimension 4700C was a steal at $327 or something back in 2005. Came with a 17 flat screen LCD and a 3.2 P4 processor with a 40gb drive and 256 mb of memory. I added 4gb of memory ($150 steal) another multitude of hard drives (5 400/500gb drives) less than $80 each when they were fairly new to the market.

I still would like a Mac just for the sake of owning one and for curiosities sake. I mean there is nothing right now where I am kicking myself in the butt, saying I wish I had a Mac because I can't do "x". That said it would still be nice, and then after owning both, I could compare both. If I got bored with the Mac, at least I wouldn't lose much cash, especially since I'd be buying used to begin with.

33 posted on 11/07/2007 6:07:35 PM PST by Blue Highway
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