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Earliest Scots Braved Ice Age Conditions
Discovery.com ^ | 10-05-07 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 10/18/2007 3:57:59 AM PDT by Renfield

Oct. 5, 2007 — During the last ice age, Scotland was likely a desolate place covered by glaciers, but new evidence suggests intrepid settlers braved the elements by establishing a community there as early as 13,000 years ago.

The determination, published in the latest British Archaeology, further suggests the earliest Scots shared a common ancestor with the first Norwegians, meaning that some people of Scottish descent could be distantly related to modern Norwegians.

"So often we hear that conditions in Scotland during the late Paleolithic and early Mesolithic would have prohibited human settlements because the landscape was cold and icy, but now we have to wonder what was actually going on and why people appear to have been living in the area during what is thought to have been a glacial period," Naomi Woodward, who led the project, told Discovery News.

Ancient Weaponry

The so-called tanged points found in northern Scotland, shown here, are high-tech by prehistoric standards. The arrowheads feature grooves at the bottom for easy insertion into a spear or arrow.

Woodward, an archaeologist at Orkney College, and her team launched a field survey in April on the island of Stronsay, Orkney, in the north of Scotland. There they excavated two broken flint points, which either served as arrowheads or spear tips.

The points match others found at early Scottish sites, and they also match points, discovered in what is now northern Germany, dating to even earlier time periods. The Stronsay points date to around 13,000 years ago, and likely predate an 8,500 B.C. Edinburgh hunting campsite, previously thought to have been Scotland's oldest settlement.

According to Mike Pitts, the editor of British Archaeology, the points represented high technology for prehistoric hunters.

"They're called tanged points because they have a tang, or notch, that would have gone into a slot on a stick," he explained. "Fine thread bound them to the stick, and the connection would have been secured with resin, serving as glue."

The northern European plains location suggests Scotland's first settlers were reindeer hunters from the Ahrensburgian culture. Reindeer exist in Scotland, but the researchers suspect the hunters also went after more prevalent deer and other large herbivores. If attached to spears, the points could have also been used to stab fish and marine life.

Caroline Wickham-Jones, an honorary research fellow in the Department of Archaeology at the University of York, lives in Orkney and is an expert on early Scottish settlements.

She told Discovery News the points add to "a package" of flint weaponry findings from other early sites, such as Tiree and Wester Ross on Scotland's west coast.

Sea level was much lower at the time, and other researchers have found entirely submerged forests and valleys around Scotland.

Wickham-Jones suspects the Ahrenburgians hunted mammals and tapped marine resources, island hopping and moving by boat around the region. A more northerly trip likely took them to Norway, where they are believed to have established yet another settlement.

"It is probable then that some Scottish individuals share common ancestors with the Norwegians," Wickham-Jones said, adding that the discovery suggests early settlers did not just come up to Scotland from England, bringing their culture with them.

Instead, Scotland appears to have, at least in some areas, "developed its own unique identity," based on the early Ahrenburgian inhabitants, which seem to have first settled at Stronsay.

The finds may also explain the island's attraction and the origin of the name Stronsay, which means "Star Island" in Old Norse.

"The island juts out in points so, to the early boaters, it would have looked like an actual star," Woodward said.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; ice; paleoanthropology; scotland
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To: blam

So did R1b settle Britain?


21 posted on 10/18/2007 4:26:41 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: rdl6989
"So did R1b settle Britain?"

YES!

90% of the Irish are R1b as are 68% of all other Europeans. The female (mtDNA) equivalent is haplogroup 'H'.

My yDNA (Male) is R1b with a DYS390-23 which indicates that I am a Dane-Saxon-Viking variety. My mtDNA(female) is 'V' which are the Sa'ami (reindeer herders - Laplanders) from northern Finland....the Sa'ami part was a big suprise, lol.

22 posted on 10/18/2007 7:36:42 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: rdl6989
Descendant Of Stone Age Skeleton Found (Cheddar Man - 9,000 Years Old)"

Cheddar Man has mtDNA U5a as does my dad's mother (Mrs Smith).

23 posted on 10/18/2007 7:44:00 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Looking at that map with all the arrows pointing to the frozen north, I have to wonder....there must have been some really bad mothers chasing after them.


24 posted on 10/18/2007 9:21:02 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: blam

Hubby’s maternal line is a real mutt mix: Saami, Swedish, Scots, English, German...

A bunch of the settlers who settled what was then New Sweden were Saami...the Swedish government was dragging anybody and everybody who gave them a reason to be considered non-desirable and sending them off to North America - where they were re-abused by the colonial government. Husband’s ancestral family sold Penn the land for Philadelphia.


25 posted on 10/19/2007 9:28:54 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Yup, and after Penn bought the land and started bringing English Quakers, even the Lutherans in the former Nieuwe Sverge colony began complaining "back home". New, tougher Lutheran ministers were sent out to whip the Quakers into line so they would no longer bother the Swedes, Finns and Sa'ami who made up the colony.

They weren't tough enough ~ so the colony relocated to York County PA, abandoning even Elkton Maryland.

The not-so-tough ministers went back home and in short order the old Sa'ami gods (Little Red Man, Herb Woman, and the ever present Reindeer Man) were inflicted on American culture and the rest is history.

The Swedes continued to bring Sa'ami to America over the next century until the great famines and then half the Swedes themselves left the old world to settle the Northern Midwest.

I've found what I believe to be a strong remnant of the first Scandinavian colonists (from the 1600s) in Southern Indiana. They seem to be predominantly Sa'ami. At the same time I've found the traces of a number of Swedish lords and magnates who abandoned Finland about 1809 and moved into the same area with the Sa'ami and other Finns.

Nearby Indiana University is the only school in North America that regularly provides instruction in the Sa'ami languages ~ which I think is strictly coincidental!

26 posted on 10/19/2007 4:18:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam
To be quite objective about it, most of the Sa'ami descendants in America derive from two tribes ~ the Inari and the Skolt ~ which are now the SMALLEST Sa'ami tribes left in Fenno-Scandia.

They've been getting themselves dragged out of Finland, Russia and Norway for 3 centuries now. In America they are usually mistaken for mere Finns, or even Russians ~ (oh the horror).

27 posted on 10/19/2007 4:22:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; blam
Reading through the Indiana Census of 1807 today (which is when the first Scanderhoovians and Pennsylvania Scanderhoovians began arriving in Southern Indiana, I also found what I take to be the "13th Warrior" ~ that is, a Turk or an unrepentent Finn.

More on this later. I'd never studied Scanderhoovians until recently so I'm looking at this census with new eyes.

28 posted on 10/19/2007 4:32:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"More on this later. I'd never studied Scanderhoovians until recently so I'm looking at this census with new eyes."

Keep up the good work and keep us informed on your findings.

29 posted on 10/19/2007 6:38:46 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: muawiyah

Hubby’s folks ended up in Berks County before his line of them moved on to the Carolinas. There’s a lot of interesting things that happened in the early settlement that just doesn’t get talked about much, but is interesting!


30 posted on 10/20/2007 1:17:06 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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