[Hemingway's Ghost]

I’m a lifelong Red Sox fan and live right in the city of Boston. Always a lot of sports talk all year long around here. I have never heard a Sox fan say anything unkind about Torre. The man is well respected and many Sox fans love the guy.

Agreed, and add Jeter and Mariano to the list as well. A-fraud, Juice Giambi, and Johnny Judas Damon can go to hell, though.

[raccoonradio]

>>Mariano

When the Sox opened their 2005 season it was vs. the
Yankees and the Yankees had to see the championship
team from the previous year get introduced at Fenway Park
(I think the ring ceremony was then, too). Torre took it in stride—and when Rivera was introduced, he was cheered by
the Sox fans—and Mariano smiled and laughed. That was nice.
He could have been sullen and angry but they were acknowledging that they had beaten him the year before...
(mock cheers? but still kinda good natured)...
“to be the best, you’ve got to beat the best”. Rivera
was usually lights out but the Sox got past him.

And for smiling and taking the “cheers” well, Rivera
got OUR respect. Sure, the Sox beat him but there
were times when it was the other way around...so
it felt good to come out on top...THAT time.