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Stealth Windows update prevents XP repair
Windows Secrets ^ | 27 September 2007 | Scott Dunn

Posted on 09/27/2007 12:48:41 PM PDT by ShadowAce

A silent update that Microsoft deployed widely in July and August is preventing the "repair" feature of Windows XP from completing successfully.

Ever since the Redmond company's recent download of new support files for Windows Update, users of XP's repair function have been unable to install the latest 80 patches from Microsoft.

Repaired installations of XP can't be updated
Accounts of conflicts with XP's repair option came to our attention after Microsoft's "silent install" of Windows Update (WU) executable files, known as version 7.0.600.381, was reported in the Sept. 13 and 20 issues of the Windows Secrets Newsletter.

The trouble occurs when users reinstall XP's system files using the repair capability found on genuine XP CD-ROMs. (The feature is not present on "Restore CDs.") The repair option, which is typically employed when XP for some reason becomes unbootable, rolls many aspects of XP back to a pristine state. It wipes out many updates and patches and sets Internet Explorer back to the version that originally shipped with the operating system.

Normally, users who repair XP can easily download and install the latest patches, using the Automatic Updates control panel or navigating directly to Microsoft's Windows Update site.

However, after using the repair option from an XP CD-ROM, Windows Update now downloads and installs the new 7.0.600.381 executable files. Some WU executables aren't registered with the operating system, preventing Windows Update from working as intended. This, in turn, prevents Microsoft's 80 latest patches from installing — even if the patches successfully downloaded to the PC.

I was able to reproduce and confirm the problem on a test machine. When WU tries to download the most recent patches to a "repaired" XP machine, Microsoft's Web site simply states: "A problem on your computer is preventing the updates from being downloaded or installed." (See Figure 1.)

Windows Update errorFigure 1. After a repair install of XP, which resets the operating system to its original state, Windows Update can't install the 80 most-recent patches from Microsoft.
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Most ordinary Windows users might never attempt a repair install, but the problem will affect many administrators who must repair Windows frequently. Anyone who runs XP's repair function will find that isolating the cause of the failed updates is not a simple matter.

Beginning in July, it is not possible for Windows users to install updates without first receiving the 7.0.6000.381 version of nine Windows Update support files. (See my Sept. 13 story for details.) If Automatic Updates is turned on, the .381 update will be installed automatically. If AU is not turned on, you'll be prompted to let Windows Update upgrade itself before you can installing any other updates. Consequently, users are forced to get the silent update before they can attempt to install Microsoft's latest security patches.

The problem apparently arises because seven of the DLLs (dynamic link library files) used by WU fail to be registered with Windows. If files of the same name had previously been registered — as happened when Windows Update upgraded itself in the past — the new DLL files are registered, too, and no problem occurs. On a "repaired" copy of XP, however, no such registration has occurred, and failing to register the new DLLs costs Windows Update the ability to install any patches.

Registering DLL files is normally the role of an installer program. Unlike previous upgrades to WU, however, Microsoft has published no link to an installer or a downloadable version of 7.0.6000.381. Strangely, there's no Knowledge Base article at all explaining the new version. The lack of a KB article (and the links that usually appear therein) makes it impossible for admins to run an installer to see if it would correct the registration problem.

One possible fix is to install an older version of the Windows Update files (downloadable from Step 2 of Microsoft Knowledge Base article 927891) over the newer version. This involves launching the installer from a command line using a switch known as /wuforce.

That corrects the registration problem, although even in this case you must still accept the .381 stealth update (again) before you can get any updates. The fact that the /wuforce procedure solves the problem suggests that the installer for .381 is the source of the bug.

Manually registering files solves the problem
If you find that Windows Update refuses to install most patches, you can register its missing DLLs yourself. This can be accomplished by manually entering seven commands (shown in Step 2, below) at a command prompt. If you need to run the fix on multiple machines, it's easiest to use a batch file, as Steps 1 through 5 explain:

Step 1. Open Notepad (or any text editor).

Step 2. Copy and paste the following command lines into the Notepad window (the /s switch runs the commands silently, freeing you from having to press Enter after each line):

regsvr32 /s wuapi.dll
regsvr32 /s wuaueng1.dll
regsvr32 /s wuaueng.dll
regsvr32 /s wucltui.dll
regsvr32 /s wups2.dll
regsvr32 /s wups.dll
regsvr32 /s wuweb.dll

Step 3. Save the file to your desktop, using a .bat or .cmd extension.

Step 4. Double-click the icon of the .bat or .cmd file.

Step 5. A command window will open, run the commands, and then close.

The next time you visit the Windows Update site, you should not have any problem installing the latest patches.

In my articles in the last two weeks on the silent installation of the Windows Update support files, I stated that the stealthy upgrade seemed harmless. Now that we know that version .381 prevents a repaired instance of XP from getting critical patches, "harmless" no longer describes the situation. The crippling of Windows Update illustrates why many computer professionals demand to review updates for software conflicts before widely installing upgrades.

"I understand the need to update the infrastructure for Windows Update," says Gordon Pegue, systems administrator for Chavez Grieves Engineers, a structural engineering firm in Albuquerque, N.M. "But I think Microsoft dropped the ball a little bit communicating how the system works. Administrators should know these sorts of things, in case problems arise."

A Microsoft spokeswoman offered to provide an official response about the situation, but I received no reply by press time.

If you ever need to run the repair option on XP, first see the detailed description provided by the Michael Stevens Tech Web site.

I'd like to thank Windows Secrets contributing editor Susan Bradley for her help in bringing reports of this problem to light.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; operatingsystems; techhell; windows; windowsxp; xp
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1 posted on 09/27/2007 12:48:46 PM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; ..

2 posted on 09/27/2007 12:49:26 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

It’s a ruse to get you to switch to crappy Vista.


3 posted on 09/27/2007 12:49:26 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68
It’s a ruse to get you to switch to crappy Vista.

I was thinking almost the same thing. MS slogan used to be "DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run". I guess now it's Vista isn't done until XP won't run".

4 posted on 09/27/2007 12:51:57 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: 6ppc

Every professional magazine I’ve read about Vista pretty much pans it in terms of providing any real reason to upgrade.


5 posted on 09/27/2007 12:53:27 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

I got a new laptop with Windows Vista, it is CRAP.


6 posted on 09/27/2007 12:55:01 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: ShadowAce
*sigh*

Microsoft continues to base its business model on the abuse of its customers. I can't see how they believe that will be a viable long-term plan.

Every one of these stupid stunts only gives further incentive for customers to find and support the competition.

I wonder sometimes if Bill Gates appreciates the bitter irony of the fact that he has become exactly what he despised in IBM when he started.

7 posted on 09/27/2007 12:56:34 PM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: ShadowAce

Sorry. My HD crashed in July. Refused Vista because I didn’t want to go through the hassle of converting Cakewalk’s Sonar software. It’s always a mess and takes me months to relearn everthing. XP installed fine. Updates installed fine. Everything working perfectly.

Not buying this story ... OR ... Vista.


8 posted on 09/27/2007 12:57:33 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: jveritas
I got a new laptop with Windows Vista, it is CRAP.

I believe MS will work with you on providing a downgrade license to XP. Give their tech support a call, and if they can give you an XP product key, you can just use it instead.

9 posted on 09/27/2007 12:58:54 PM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: ShadowAce

Bump


10 posted on 09/27/2007 1:00:18 PM PDT by Darnright
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To: jveritas

“I got a new laptop with Windows Vista, it is CRAP.”

Not entirely, the record companies like it.


11 posted on 09/27/2007 1:04:50 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Jo Nuvark
"Not buying this story"

Except that the story was pertaining to a Repair function which is only done if your XP system has crashed for some reason and you use the CD to repair it. It has nothing to do with a new install of XP, which, if I read correctly, you did. Other then that I agree with the not buying Vista part.

In the shop I work in, we get an average of 40 calls a week form people with Vista problems. Most of which have to do with printer drivers failing during use and then working during others.

12 posted on 09/27/2007 1:05:14 PM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: Slapshot68
It’s a ruse to get you to switch to crappy Vista.

Didn't work. I switched to Xubuntu after the July downgrade.
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13 posted on 09/27/2007 1:06:53 PM PDT by radioman
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To: jveritas
I got a new laptop with Windows Vista, it is CRAP.

Why Microsoft must abandon Vista to save itself
14 posted on 09/27/2007 1:07:14 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ShadowAce

I gave up entirely on computers, now I just call the freerepublic 800 number and do everything over the phone.

It takes longer to have to listen to all the threads, but at least I don’t have to deal with the photos of Helen Thomas.


15 posted on 09/27/2007 1:08:04 PM PDT by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets.)
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To: driftdiver
the record companies like it.

They spec'ed large portions of it. They ought to like it.

16 posted on 09/27/2007 1:10:39 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Slapshot68

“It’s a ruse to get you to switch to crappy Vista.”

It succeeded...in getting me to switch to the Mac.


17 posted on 09/27/2007 1:12:51 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: ShadowAce

for later


18 posted on 09/27/2007 1:13:07 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Message received, is message sent" Claire Cooper)
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To: ShadowAce

anti-Vista bump


19 posted on 09/27/2007 1:13:33 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Slapshot68
A relative recently bought a laptop with Vista. What a pain.

I helped him out as much as I could, but a lot of it came down to "You have to BUY the Vista version of the app...", speaking of forcing upgrades, "as 2006 and earlier versions are not supported..."

I'm having trouble updating (XP) Framework 2.0, myself, just on one machine. I've been too lazy to go through the hassle of doing it from scratch.

Again. Happened one of the last times they did an update of it, too.

20 posted on 09/27/2007 1:13:47 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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