Posted on 09/18/2007 9:39:52 AM PDT by Philistone
I'm sorry that your child was killed by a drunk driver, but that doesn't give you the right to pull my car over at random and search me or it.
I'm sorry that your father died of lung cancer at the age of 60, but that doesn't give you the right to tell me I can't smoke in my own house or car.
I'm sorry that your best friend died of a heart-attack after eating nothing but Big Macs all his life, but that doesn't give you the right to tell me that I can't eat fats if I want to.
I'm sorry that you were raised to be squeamish at the sight of blood, but that does not give you the right to force me to eat only vegetables or wear only plant fibers.
I'm sorry that you can't afford health insurance, but that does not give you the right to force me to provide it for you.
I'm sorry that over 150 years ago people with the same color skin as me enslaved people with the same color skin as you, but that doesn't give you the right take the hard-earned efforts of my labor for yourself.
I'm sorry that your homeland is corrupt and your culture has no work ethic, but that doesn't give you the right to come here illegally and burden our schools and emergency rooms with your presence.
I'm sorry that your parents chose to come here illegally, but that doesn't give you the right to force me to fund your college education.
I'm sorry that you find it fashionable to ride your bike to work, but that doesn't give you the right to take away my car.
I'm sorry that your lack of intelligence and attention through high school and college left you fit only for a job as a public school teacher, but that doesn't give you the right to inflict your anger and ideology on my child.
I'm sorry that you are mentally and physically unfit to serve in our nation's Armed Forces, but that does not give you the right to disparage those who are fit and do serve.
I'm sorry that your parents and teachers continually told you that you are unique and special, but you are not.
I'm sorry that the jocks stuffed you in your locker in high school, but that doesn't give you the right to equate my President with Hitler.
I'm sorry that you failed Trigonometry, but that doesn't give you the right to equate Sociology with Engineering
I'm sorry that you are not as attractive as other women, but that does not give you the right to impose your feminist idiocracy on me, my company or my family.
I'm sorry that your nervous system is so exquisitely sensitive that you can be hurt by minute variations in air pressure caused by sound waves, but that doesn't give you the right to determine what I can and can not say.
I'm sorry that your enormous ego coupled with a complete lack of self-esteem, lack of any sense of self-worth and ignorance about how the real world works has led you to becoming a Liberal, but... Well, no buts. I'm not really sorry.
Remember: Anyone who tells you "it's for the children" believes that YOU are a child.
Its not unreasonable, given when it occurs,
If he doesn’t have a warrant, or really strong probable cause, it’s unreasonable. Random stops and searches are illegal. Period.
No problem you holding a personal opinion like that. The courts have said otherwise, repeatedly.
I’m happy with those rulings. We kill more in a single year due to idiots driving drunk than we’ve lost since 9/11 in the war...by quite a bit actually.
The number of people who are actually killed by drunk drivers each year is very small. And I am not talking about “alcohol related fatalities.” All this Government hysteria is not justified.
‘Sorry but you are wrong, when its a random stop with no probable cause its wrong.’
In your opinion. In the real world, its law thats been affirmed repeatedly.
Random searches cannot be reasonable, as there is no probable cause.
And I would argue that driving IS a right, by the way.
I like turtles.
‘The number of people who are actually killed by drunk drivers each year is very small.’
Really? Whats the total?
Second question. How many is ‘enough’ for you?
One can drink. One can drive. But it’s incredibly stupid to do them at the same time.
‘Random searches cannot be reasonable, as there is no probable cause.’
I think the statistics available undermine this claim. Just my opinion.
‘And I would argue that driving IS a right, by the way.’
Sorry, thats established fact that it is not a ‘right’ by court precedent.
Well there may have been just the slightest tad bit of sarcasm in there... ;-)
#1 - Lighten up, Francis! No where did the poster declare, imply, or infer that the U.S. Constitution granted anyone the right to drive.
#2 - If you think rights are granted to citizens in the constitution, then you're either a troll or you don't understand Conservatism very well. The Constitution clearly defines the (very limited, or supposed to be) powers that the Federal Government may exercise, not the rights that citizens may enjoy.
Boy are you going to be a basket case when you wake up in this country one day ruled by totalitarians who have tons of "precedent" to justify their controlling every aspect of your life. But of course you believe it won't ever happen because your belief in this cause is with the purest of intentions. ((SPIT))
‘....then you’re either a troll ....’
I’ve come to realize this term is one of the most misused here at Free Republic.
A troll? Since 2000?
Riiiight.....(chuckle)
Saw a link from another thread the other day concerning random drunk driving roadblocks. This was from some town in Virginia. The report stated that they stopped 682 vehicles and arrested 1 (one) driver for DUI. 682-1. Makes you think that there are other reasons for such roadblocks.
Gov’t statistics list an accident as “alcohol related” if ANYONE (including passengers - so much for the “designated driver” theory) involved has ANY alcohol in his/her body at all.
Check out the 4th Amend.
Drunk driving deaths are too many at any level. But so are murders. Each should be subject to law enforcement action and judicial sanctions without subjecting everyone else to unreasonable detentions and searches.
Love it. Here’s a modification that actually better fits with the overall structure:
I’m sorry that you are mentally and physically unfit to serve in our nation’s Armed Forces, but that does not give you the right to dumb down the requirements so you can pass.
Sorry, thats established fact that it is not a right by
court precedent.
‘Boy are you going to be a basket case when you wake up in this country one day ruled by totalitarians who have tons of “precedent” to justify their controlling every aspect of your life. But of course you believe it won’t ever happen because your belief in this cause is with the purest of intentions. ((SPIT))’
I cite the prevailing legal opinion as it exists in this very narrow context, and you draw a rather ridiculous conclusion from it.
Now, wipe the backside of my screen off, that spit is dripping....(chuckle)
This thread is hilariously typical of FReeperdom — everybody’s arguing over the FIRST LINE!
‘Check out the 4th Amend.’
Unless its been changed in the past 24 hours or so, no need to do so.
I understand your ‘theory’ on this. It makes for great dinner conversation.
I know how the courts have ruled on this arguement over the years, and I suspect you do as well. They found it lacking...by miles and miles and miles. As I suspect you already know.
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