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1 posted on 09/16/2007 3:45:56 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Spaghetti code?


2 posted on 09/16/2007 3:48:47 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: DaveLoneRanger; metmom; editor-surveyor; Alamo-Girl; BlueDragon; AndrewC; ari-freedom

ping!


5 posted on 09/16/2007 4:20:14 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Very fascinating article - thanks for posting it. It’s interesting to hear that life is more complex that the basic genetic model. I have seen a few other articles posted here relating to this dawning realization.


7 posted on 09/16/2007 4:21:33 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: GodGunsGuts

Our living world clearly is based on an information code which is more complex than anything man and/or his computer science has ever yet devised. Anybody who thinks this kind of stuff can evolveis living in lala-land.


10 posted on 09/16/2007 4:26:44 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: GodGunsGuts

No matter what the end result may be, it is very hard to conceive of 98+% of the genome being “junk”. Life, nature, creation, whatever one may call it....it is too sophisticated and too complex to simply allow garbage to lie around, cluttering up the place. Of many things that are self evident, that is one that even a child should comprehend.


76 posted on 09/16/2007 7:49:46 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

bump


77 posted on 09/16/2007 7:54:12 PM PDT by VOA
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If DNA is a passive code, what codes for its activity? If gene regulation by a network of transcripts is now more important than genes, what regulates the regulators?

"What regulates the regulators?" is the 64-million-dollar question.... I've seen some fascinating speculations about this involving the quantum domain and spontaneous emissions of photons by the yet-deeper universal vacuum field, photons being information carriers that trigger the timing and place reactions essential for biological life occur. The next ten years will probably be a very fertile time for the biological sciences, provided adherents of the currently-reigning orthodoxies don't succeed in strangling such efforts in their cradle.... (It's beginning to seem to me that is the role and function of the peer-reviewed journals these days.)

Thanks so much for this fascinating post, GodGunsGuts!

91 posted on 09/17/2007 7:17:32 AM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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To: GodGunsGuts

This makes perfect sense really. Think about a computer program. If you only took the display routines or IO routines from the code and considered the rest of it “junk”, then most of a computer program would be considered “junk”. Protein regulation is another way of talking about a cell knowing what to put where and when. The junk-DNA becomes the most important part of the genome because it is the true blueprint. The genes are just the code for the final output.


100 posted on 09/17/2007 10:04:08 AM PDT by dan1123 (You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. --Jesus)
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>>The “central dogma” of genetics, since Watson and Crick determined the structure of DNA, is that genetic information flows one-way<<

This has been suspected since it was determined that insanity can be inherited from one’s children.


110 posted on 09/17/2007 3:50:52 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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Like, *PING*, folks.

Right, was this part of what you had in mind during your comment to me about the DNA in the thread yesterday?

Also, thanks for the tip about compound interest: but I am doing a little judicious stock picking as well to help things along. Thanks for the encouragement.

Cheers!

151 posted on 09/18/2007 8:32:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Is this the discovery that’s going to drive the last nail into the Theory of Evolution’s coffin yet again?


178 posted on 09/19/2007 2:51:24 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“including the “modern orthodoxy” that only genes are important:”

Orthodoxy? In Science? Nooo, that never happens!


185 posted on 09/19/2007 9:35:15 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: GodGunsGuts
Closer examination of the full human genome is now causing scientists...

The author is incorrect in his use of the word "causing."

187 posted on 09/20/2007 1:29:18 AM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: GodGunsGuts
The Central Dogma of Molecular Biology is that DNA is the template for a messenger RNA molecule that codes for a protein.

The article in question from ‘creationsafari’that announces “Genetics “Central Dogma” Dead” concedes that...

“It remains indisputable that DNA codes for proteins via messenger RNA, and that proteins perform the major structural and functional operations of the cell.”

The finding of massive amounts of regulatory RNA (the only actual scientific meat among the rhetorical straw men) raised this speculation by Patrick Barry author of ‘Genome 2.0’ as quoted by the article in creationsafari...

“In the established definition, a gene is a discrete region of DNA that produces a single, identifiable protein in a cell. But the functioning of a protein often depends on a host of RNAs that control its activity. If a stretch of DNA known to be a protein-coding gene also produces regulatory RNAs essential for several other genes, is it somehow a part of all those other genes as well?”

Hardly an overturning of the Central Dogma of Molecular Biology. It is a very interesting finding and it is estimated that these regulatory elements that show evolutionary conservation between lineages like genes (indicating that they have function and are under selective constraint) make up as much of the human genome as the genes themselves (3%).

189 posted on 09/24/2007 5:40:33 PM PDT by allmendream (A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal. (Hunter08))
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