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PIT BULLS: A notorious breed (NOT!)
Niagara Gazette ^ | 7/26/08 | By April Amadon/amadona@gnnewspaper.com

Posted on 09/02/2007 9:30:42 AM PDT by meandog

In the 27 years that Al Chille has been with the Niagara County SPCA, many dogs have had their day.

Lately, it’s been the pit bull’s turn to be notorious.

Between local incidents like the July 8 attack on a toddler, and national cases like the Michael Vick dogfighting scandal, pit bulls have been in the headlines a lot lately.

“We’re getting all kinds of negative national publicity (for pit bulls),” Chille, SPCA executive director, said.

Chille said he’s very selective about whom he lets adopt pit bulls — though if someone was looking to adopt a pit bull for dogfighting or for breeding, they wouldn’t go to the SPCA, since all dogs leaving the SPCA must be spayed or neutered.

(Excerpt) Read more at niagara-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dogs; fear; herewegoagain; loathing; pbts; pitbull
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Sounds like classic "springer rage"--which is more like a genetic mental illness or akin to epilepsy than innate viciousness. Breeders of springers are alert to it, and should be able to point to a pedigree without the disease when selling a puppy.

Was the dog under two years old?

61 posted on 09/02/2007 2:39:02 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: moreisee

Again, “springer rage” and should be destroyed, I’m afraid. The breeder may find himself persona non grata—


62 posted on 09/02/2007 2:44:15 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Hacksaw

Before you bring one home, check your homeowner’s insurance policy. If the dog mutilates some kid, you’re probably not covered.


63 posted on 09/02/2007 2:46:21 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Tribune7
You bring up a good point about non-neutered or spayed dogs.

It has been my experience that most responsible breeders of large dogs (like dobies or mastiffs) won't even sell an intact dog unless it is both a good example of the breed, and going to be a show dog. If the dog doesn't meet these qualifications, it is considered to be "pet quality" (still a good dog) and spayed or neutered.

64 posted on 09/02/2007 2:48:28 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: SIDENET
Yeah, for the moment. Soon they will look like colts, and then like gawky gallumpuses. Fortunately eventually they will look like this: Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
65 posted on 09/02/2007 3:08:08 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Mamzelle
Before you bring one home, check your homeowner’s insurance policy. If the dog mutilates some kid, you’re probably not covered

I'd never get a pit bull unless it was a freshly weaned pup.

66 posted on 09/02/2007 3:16:30 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Appalachian by the grace of God - Montani Semper Liberi)
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To: brytlea
Just beautiful. Here are mine:

(They insist that they can all fit on that dog bed)


67 posted on 09/02/2007 3:21:23 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: SIDENET

Oh, they look soooo comfy! Pretty dogs!
susie


68 posted on 09/02/2007 3:23:08 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: flashbunny

>>........pugs. Or poodles. Or yorkies.<<

Is that a ‘ping’? ;-)


69 posted on 09/02/2007 3:28:43 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: 353FMG

Come after mine

and you will be the one on a slab.


70 posted on 09/02/2007 6:19:54 PM PDT by Feiny (Fruitloops are Gay Cheerios)
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To: Spktyr
do you live in the ghetto?

I have yet to meet a human aggressive “pitbull”...and I live in Los Angeles. I have seen dog aggressive dogs, but no human aggressive.

My neighbors chow....bit her 5 year olds face....47 stitches....should we kill all chows?

71 posted on 09/02/2007 6:24:08 PM PDT by Feiny (Fruitloops are Gay Cheerios)
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To: Hacksaw
I guess you're one of the believers in canine Free Will. Nurture vs. nature.

A purebred, or even a semi-pure dog is not a tabula rasa.

Behaviors have been bred into dogs by breeders selecting out for type over dozens (hundreds?) of generations, they are not free souls shaped by the environment.

Border collies will exhibit herding behavior when they've never seen a sheep.

There's a reason that Labs make good seeing-eye dogs. There's a reason German Shepherds make good police dogs.

Temperament and behavior has been bred into these dogs as surely as Original Sin.

Pits were bred to fight and kill.

72 posted on 09/02/2007 6:25:18 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: brytlea

Sorry, no. I’ve met many pit bulls.

One of them attacked the bumper of my parked truck for no apparent reason.


73 posted on 09/02/2007 6:26:00 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: feinswinesuksass

I’ve never seen any dog but a pit bull assault a parked car.

And no, I don’t live in the ghetto.


74 posted on 09/02/2007 6:27:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Your experience is clearly different from mine. Where have you met many pit bulls, btw? I rarely see them, actually.
susie


75 posted on 09/02/2007 6:51:01 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: kanawa

I like your ping list pic !


76 posted on 09/02/2007 6:54:21 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: Mamzelle
Pits were bred to fight and kill.

Pit bulls were indeed bred to fight. I agree that dog breeds do have certain distinct characteristics. However, pits didn't gain notoriety as dangerous dogs until fairly recently. How do you explain that?

I'm not suggesting that irresponsible breeders aren't trying to produce aggressive dogs, but pit bulls have been around for a long time.

Please help me out here, as I'm trying to fully understand your argument and absolutely do not wish to put words in your mouth. For your argument about pit bulls to be correct, either:

1. Pit bulls have always been a dangerous breed, or

2. The entire gene pool of these dogs has been destroyed by irresponsible breeders over a roughly 20-year period.

I have problems with both arguments because the first isn't supported by history. Pit bulls used to be viewed as pretty much the all-American dog. In the case of the second argument, I can point to when German Shepherds and Dobermans had the same type of notoriety that pit bulls currently have. Were their gene pools permanently destroyed when irresponsible breeders were churning out thousands of substandard dogs?

I'm not trying to be a jerk. I responded to your post because you advanced a coherent argument, unlike the people who post an inflammatory one-liner about wanting to kill all pit bulls.

77 posted on 09/02/2007 7:12:34 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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To: kanawa
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

78 posted on 09/02/2007 7:31:36 PM PDT by just deserts
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To: SIDENET

The link I posted showed 95 percent of attacks were by intact dogs. That meshes with other things I’ve heard.


79 posted on 09/02/2007 8:09:01 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: Tribune7
Bump to your profile page.

It is very much worth checking out, to include viewing of the linked film.

80 posted on 09/02/2007 8:33:52 PM PDT by SIDENET (Inventor of the 12-hour "power nap".)
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