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Microsoft to Release Vista Fixes in 2008
Excite News ^ | 29 August 2007 | AP

Posted on 08/30/2007 6:59:42 AM PDT by ShadowAce

SEATTLE (AP) - Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) said Wednesday it will release a major package of updates and fixes for the Windows Vista operating system in the first half of 2008.

The company said a "beta" test version of Service Pack 1 will be released "in a few weeks to a moderate sized audience." The SP1 beta includes updates Microsoft has already made to the operating system it started selling to consumers at the end of January.

The service pack fixes some common problems that cause computers to crash or freeze, Microsoft said, including compatibility problems with some newer graphics cards, external monitors and printer drivers. Microsoft said it also fixed some problems users had with putting their PCs to sleep and waking them up again.

The company said SP1 is also expected to improve battery performance, increase the speed of copying files and help Internet Explorer run faster on Vista.

The Redmond, Wash.-based software maker said SP1 also brings several security improvements.

Microsoft said it expects to release Service Pack 3 for Windows XP, Vista's predecessor, in the first half of 2008 as well, but in a statement added that it "should not significantly change the Windows XP experience."

In the past, some of Microsoft's business clients used the release of a service pack as a sign that a new operating system was stable enough to install. Analysts have said Vista seems more reliable out of the box than past versions of Windows, and that businesses need not wait for the service pack.


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To: ShadowAce
Drivers and compatibility are Vista issues.

Have you noticed we haven't been hearing as much blathering by the microsoft drones about Linux driver and hardware issues? 

Could it be that Linux is more compatible than vista, even without vendor support?

 

AmP



41 posted on 08/30/2007 7:56:15 AM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: Kirkwood
My Vista Ultimate on Duo Core runs rings around my other systems running XP SP2. I love Vista.

Yep, nothing like it. It's just amazing. Smooth, stable, and intuitive. And with regards to upgrading, I would recommend waiting on Vista until you purchase a new machine. You'll want a fresh install and the latest hardware.
42 posted on 08/30/2007 7:57:05 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: Obadiah
but two things hold me back. 1) Macs are way overpriced.

I think you need to look at the comparative pricing of Macs again, because this simply isn't true any more. (Even before Apple dropped their prices by a couple of hundred dollars. 

If you're buying a gaming rig, you're not putting together a $400 bare-bones system.

There have been several posts here on FR that do a direct comparison between Apple and Dell for as identically spec'd machines as they could. The Mac was generally cheaper especially if you consider software costs on top of the hardware.

43 posted on 08/30/2007 8:00:14 AM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: zencat
I picked up a new machine with Vista in March. Absolutely love it. Unbelievably stable.

There is probably one dog somewhere who likes Chinese dogfood as well.

44 posted on 08/30/2007 8:03:13 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Maneesh

45 posted on 08/30/2007 8:06:02 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Many US Americans can't read maps because they don't have maps.)
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To: upchuck
FWIW, I don’t know of anybody that’s had even close to a “good” experience with Vista.

I have a machine with Vista Home Premium on it and I have so far been 100% satisfied and have had no issues of any kind.

Infact, so far I like it better than XP on virtually all matters.

Now you can change the above in future posts to, "Other than 1 idiot, I don't know..."

46 posted on 08/30/2007 8:09:48 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Maneesh
IMAC : 20 inch, ,2.4 Ghz dual core with 2 GB RAM. Price about $1700

Apple has narrowed the price gap, but one can get nearly 2 Vista machines with those specs for that price. A web cam with mic is like $30. Boot up on Vista is snappin', it doesn't crash, and you don't have the registry, virus, and spyware issues anymore.
47 posted on 08/30/2007 8:12:33 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: dfwgator

“They don’t need to improve XP, I’m happy with it as it is.”

I said this as well until I actually started to use Vista. I have several XP systems with 4GB of ram and they cannot do what Vista does with 2 Gb on a duo core processor. Vista is truly a multitasking system while at best I could smoothly run 2 apps simultaneously on XP. Anything more and the apps would start bumping into one another.

On Vista I now regularly run 6 or more applications at the same time, including intense numerical crunching routines working on extracting data from graphics files. In XP, if I ran those same number crunching routines, it froze me out of doing anything else. One machine running Vista has replaced at least 3 of my systems running XP. I would go to all Vista if I could, but I still need XP to run a couple of software apps that some companies have not upgraded yet. I am planning on buying 2 more Vista systems for my company this fall so my employees can keep up with me.


48 posted on 08/30/2007 8:15:42 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: steve86
There is probably one dog somewhere who likes Chinese dogfood as well.

Whatever. I've used computers since an old homebuilt HealthKit H-8 in the late 70s. Had a Commodore 64, original Mac, Amiga, every model PC from 286 to the latest dual cores and used every operating system except ME on them plus Linux. Built many myself. Major power user, program, work in IT, run e-commerce businesses.

Vista is one of the finest operating system I have ever used. Now I realize for some that's not as fun as complaining.
49 posted on 08/30/2007 8:27:50 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: zencat
“Apple has narrowed the price gap, but one can get nearly 2 Vista machines with those specs for that price. A web cam with mic is like $30. Boot up on Vista is snappin’, it doesn’t crash, and you don’t have the registry, virus, and spyware issues anymore.”

Just give the hackers time and Vista will be as virus ridden as XP. The essential problem is the software development and design approach at Microsoft that releases defective product and accepts flawed products. That is in the DNA of their thought process and is near impossible to change unless you replace the entire software team. At Apple, it is their approach to design and testing which is just far better.

It is analogous to Ford being OK with putting junk on the road but Toyota hardly ever does. With rare exception, the first release of any product is error ridden and I never buy any first release except for Apple products. They have the best design and product development and release process in the world.

50 posted on 08/30/2007 8:29:57 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: ShadowAce

There are a lot more pro-Vista comments on this thread than in previous ones. I’ll need some new computers in the next 6 months (I’ll probably end up replacing all the primary computers at my small company) and was planning to use XP Pro licenses, but it sounds like maybe I should seriously consider Vista also, especially if SP1 is released before I need to buy anything. Is there a learning curve for Vista in a small networked office environment for someone coming from XP/2K/98/95/3.1/DOS/etc.?


51 posted on 08/30/2007 8:30:23 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Phantom Lord

Okay, make it two. :-)


52 posted on 08/30/2007 8:37:35 AM PDT by upchuck (Today there are 10,000 more illegal aliens in yer country than there were yesterday. 10,000! THINK!)
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To: Turbopilot
Do yourself a favor and go to an Apple store. Use and Mac machine for 5 minutes and you will never want to use Windows again. Nearly all software works with Mac’s and you can transfer any data you want to Mac’s.

Your productivity will immediately go up and you will actually work on your computer instead of constantly fixing and maintaining it.

53 posted on 08/30/2007 8:38:19 AM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: ShadowAce

Another winner from microsatan.

LLS


54 posted on 08/30/2007 8:41:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Kirkwood
On Vista I now regularly run 6 or more applications at the same time

wow! I'm impressed not

I'm typing this on my 2 year old linux box running Fedora Core 6 with my MP3 playing on the speakers while I transfer a full directory of stuff while running a huge system compile, two firefox and one ephiphony browser each running about 6 different tabs and FIFTEEN shells, all spread between four different virtual GUIs, of course, I could run up to seven instances of the above if needed - I often run two.

55 posted on 08/30/2007 8:53:33 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Maneesh
you will actually work on your computer instead of constantly fixing and maintaining it.

I haven't yet fixed anything on my Vista machine in six months of use, and I actually prefer the Vista interface to Mac, though they are actually quite similar. Never really had any of the problems you're talking about with XP either.

I actually like Macs, find them superior for some applications, but you're statements are hyperbole.
56 posted on 08/30/2007 8:54:12 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: zencat
Boot up on Vista is snappin', it doesn't crash, and you don't have the registry, virus, and spyware issues anymore.

 I was unaware that they'd finally come to their senses and removed the registry from windows.

As to viruses, while it doesn't as of yet seem to be a virus magnet like XP was, you can't exactly say that it's as virus-free as OSX and Linux have shown themselves to be for years.
 

57 posted on 08/30/2007 8:56:23 AM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: Turbopilot
Is there a learning curve for Vista in a small networked office environment for someone coming from XP/2K/98/95/3.1/DOS/etc.?

if you run Office 2007 (which I believe you will have to if you use Vista), there is a *HUGE* learning curve for those used to Office 2003 and earlier...

58 posted on 08/30/2007 8:57:10 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: chilepepper
15 shells? You're a piker.

$  w | wc -l
68
$  ps -ef | wc -l
223
$

...and I'm even short a few. 

:-) 

59 posted on 08/30/2007 9:09:01 AM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: Maneesh

ROFL! I have played around with a demo Mac in a store, for about an hour. No thanks.


60 posted on 08/30/2007 9:12:27 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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