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To: theBuckwheat
"up until the lifetime of my grandfather, government did not think it had the power to regulate plants and chemicals"

In 1807, Thomas Jefferson prohibited trade with Europe using the power of the Commerce Clause. He also prohibited alcohol sales to the Indians in 1805. (James Madison, who wrote the Commerce Clause, was his Secretary of State.)

In 1842, Congress forbade the importation of obscene literature or pictures from abroad. In 1884, the exportation or shipment in interstate commerce of livestock having any infectious disease was forbidden.

''The power to regulate commerce among the several States is granted to Congress in terms as absolute as is the power to regulate commerce with foreign nations.''
-- Brown v. Houston, 114 U.S. 622 (1885)

18 posted on 08/19/2007 5:06:44 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
''The power to regulate commerce among the several States is granted to Congress in terms as absolute as is the power to regulate commerce with foreign nations.'' -- Brown v. Houston, 114 U.S. 622 (1885)

Yes...but it takes some real legal and logical gymnastics to come to the conclusion that the Commerce Clause applies to pot grown in Oregon by an Oregonian and sold in Oregon to Oregonians.

Never fear, the feds performed this amazing trick years ago on our behalf.

24 posted on 08/20/2007 7:20:10 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: robertpaulsen

>>”up until the lifetime of my grandfather, government did not think it had the power to regulate plants and chemicals”


In 1807, Thomas Jefferson prohibited trade with Europe using the power of the Commerce Clause. He also prohibited alcohol sales to the Indians in 1805. (James Madison, who wrote the Commerce Clause, was his Secretary of State.)

In 1842, Congress forbade the importation of obscene literature or pictures from abroad. In 1884, the exportation or shipment in interstate commerce of livestock having any infectious disease was forbidden.

‘’The power to regulate commerce among the several States is granted to Congress in terms as absolute as is the power to regulate commerce with foreign nations.’’
— Brown v. Houston, 114 U.S. 622 (1885)<<

With Europe and the Indian nations not being states you don’t even need the interstate commerce clause - that’s international. Sick cattle sold across state lines is clearly under the ISCC.

But...

A plant growing in the soil from locally obtained seed with no intent that any portion ever cross state lines is about as much not the Federal government’s business as you get.

That said, if a neighbor had a 65 foot green house that appeared to be full of pot I would think it was for more than 4 people. Its been a long time since I around people who smoked pot but a pound used to be a mythical amount that would last a group of boys a year or more.

And these people are claiming 24*1.5 pounds = 36 pounds are for 4 people? That’s hard to believe.


27 posted on 08/20/2007 8:25:49 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: robertpaulsen
''The power to regulate commerce among the several States is granted to Congress in terms as absolute as is the power to regulate commerce with foreign nations.''

Hate to bust yer bubble, but this stuff never leaves Oregon. How is that 'interstate commerce'?

Oh I forgot. You're a liberal. Therefore everything is interstate commerce.

Never mind.

L

38 posted on 08/21/2007 12:36:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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