1998 was Colder than 1934...in 2002? (GISS Data Falsehood Before the Recent Scandal? FR EXCLUSIVE)

Web Archive and GISS ^ | 08/12/2007 | Ultra Sonic 007

[chemical_boy]

Steve McIntyre of Climate Audit beat you by a couple of days

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

Thanks. However, the argument will be made that the data has been recently subjected to more accurate statistical methodology.

[Kirkwood]

I’m not impressed with your analysis any more than I’m impressed with the analysis by the environuts. You are looking at the minutia of what a single year’s temperature might be instead of looking at the big picture.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

I’m aware that McIntyre originally discovered this. That’s what I’m referencing by the reevaluated data.

What I find disconcerting is that, even WITH faulty data, public policy decisions were still made, and claims were made are contrary to both the newly-discovered truth AND the old lies.

It’s just disconcerting to me.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

The big picture, in my personal opinon, is that 1988 was claimed to be the hottest year on record, even when the data that would justify that is contradictory. The faulty data AND the reevaluated data say this.

It offers the environuts more ammo if 1998 was the hottest year on effort. Not only is that not true, but the data they originally ran on contradicts them anyway.

[Paperdoll]

>Government lied?<

And Bush bought it!

[Delta 21]

...and its supposed to be hot all this week, too.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

No disagreement with your post and its conclusions. My point was that the discrepancies will be “explained!”

[Paperdoll]

>You have too much time on your hands.<

You should only hope to be as brilliant as Ultra.

[I got the rope]

BTTT...Great find!!!!

[vbmoneyspender]

You have too much time on your hands.

Doesn't the 'get a life' accusation apply to all of us who are posting on a Global Warming thread on a Sunday morning?

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Ping.

[Sundog]

Ping.

Look how the official data has changed over time. They called this a Y2K bug when it was first pointed out. This is straight up Orwellian logic.

[longtermmemmory]

Isn’t there a financial fraud issue here somewhere?

After all we have falsified data now.

This is growing and growing in scandal and the MSM is only trying to promote and protect the lie.

This is more blatent than the Dan Rather fraud effort yet the MSM is still denying.

(Where is the much celebrated Drudge on this? Drudgereport is the MSM’s home page.)

[longtermmemmory]

Now we have a cover up scandal on top of the lie and we have TWO cover ups!

the DBM silence is deafening.

[Phantom Lord]

Want to see the way temps are collected in America? check out surfacestations.org

You will be shocked. One of them is at an airport in an area subject to JET BLAST!!! Others are next to AC units and the hot air they vent. Still others are next to barrels used to BURN trash.

SurfaceStations.org

[Ultra Sonic 007]

I heard about that when it came to light about the stations.

I tell ya, the whole thing stinks.

[xcamel]

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Same old same old...(data included...)

[BlessedBeGod]

Excellent work!

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

Considering James Hansen's refusal to reveal the algorithms used to originally calculate the faulty data, this speaks of not just an effort to hide NASA/GISS's screw up (especially considering the media silence on this), but of a blatant, outright falsehood that's been perpetrated over the last several years.

This would normally be a huge RED FLAG. But the MSM wasn't interested.