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Some mortgage borrowers getting desperate (Video report of home owners desperate to sell)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8874568/ ^ | 8-9-07

Posted on 08/10/2007 8:03:53 AM PDT by Hydroshock

Aug. 9: Growing problems in the housing and mortgage markets are putting pressure on borrowers who are trying to sell before losing their homes. Some are even walking away from mortgages. NBC's Josh Mankiewicz reports. Full story

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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To: dashing doofus
And, obviously, this is Bush’s fault.

Many of the superstar investors are saying we WILL be in a credit crunch due to sub prime loan disasters and reseting mortgages. Jim Rogers even has been quoted that the Fed Reserve System is going to fail. And I wonder why he moved to China with his family...

Make no mistake about it, the next President will probably have to use taxpayers funds to bail out the banks who made ridiculous loans. And if it is President Hillary -- bet your booties she is gonna blame all this on Bush...

The blame should lie with Greenspan... he left the short term interest rates too low for too long and induced this massive credit binge...

21 posted on 08/10/2007 8:23:31 AM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: Oberon
In other words, the wealthy tend to remain wealthy over time, because they keep doing the things that made them wealthy in the first place...regardless of market vicissitudes.

You are absolutely right -- rare gold coins and rare stamps is the way to go right now...

22 posted on 08/10/2007 8:24:50 AM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: John123

Ammunition has been another excellent investment over the past year and a half.


23 posted on 08/10/2007 8:36:04 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: John123

Long-term money...big money...can be made in real estate during market downturns, provided you have liquidity to invest. Now’s a great time to get a good deal on your next house, provided you can afford to wait for a market upswing to sell your old one.


24 posted on 08/10/2007 8:36:54 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Hydroshock

These people will lose their houses.....meanwhile, because of their STUPIDITY, we will lose HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of DOLLARS, which is the equivalent of a house, and we didn’t do anything to deserve this.


25 posted on 08/10/2007 8:38:41 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: dashing doofus
Why, how old-fashioned of you, to expect people to make a down payment when taking on a mortgage, and actually testing to see if they can afford the payments. ;-)

"Home ownership is a civil right. Especially in minority communities, where we must work to redress the legacy of past discrimination. If it weren't for racist attitudes on the part of major banks, people wouldn't have been forced to take out these subprime loans. Therefore, in the interest of social justice the government must extend a hand up to these victims of corporate greed, who are being systematically denied their piece of the American Dream."

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Did I hit all the Democrat talking points? ;)

26 posted on 08/10/2007 8:45:11 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Damn. You sound just like Edwards. Excellent!


27 posted on 08/10/2007 8:58:35 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Is that hundreds of thousands of depreciation - of an asset that appreciated hundreds of thousands of dollars during the housing boom? Easy come, easy go.


28 posted on 08/10/2007 9:42:08 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: coloradan

I am talking about stock market money....not appreciation in a house.


29 posted on 08/10/2007 9:47:58 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Suzy Quzy

A lot of the reason the stock market went up is because US consumers made large equity withdrawls from their houses (as a result of the housing bubble) and supported the US economy, driving up earnings and therefore stock prices. Now that that particular ATM has dried up, people aren’t buying plasma TVs and SUVs with quite the same abandon. You can lay both the bubble and the bust on Greenspan’s feet.


30 posted on 08/10/2007 9:54:24 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: coloradan

Right....all I’m saying is that it’s not ONLY the people who will lose their HOUSES that are going to suffer....we ALL will suffer and lose HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of dollars.


31 posted on 08/10/2007 9:56:53 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Suzy Quzy

I agree. Everybody gets covered with a thin, soapy film when a giant bubble pops - not just the person who blew it. And Greenspan sure blew it!


32 posted on 08/10/2007 9:59:14 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: bert

Um, the reason theres a problem is because the equity is no longer there. In many cases the property is worth less than
the note, ergo the reason why people are walking away.


33 posted on 08/10/2007 10:11:49 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Oberon
Long-term money...big money...can be made in real estate during market downturns, provided you have liquidity to invest. Now’s a great time to get a good deal on your next house, provided you can afford to wait for a market upswing to sell your old one.

That depends where you are located. I know the prices are "sticky" in Florida. Real Estate still has a way to go down in the overheated markets.

BTW, did you know they are still building 20,000 condos in Miami? Unbelievable!!!

34 posted on 08/10/2007 12:33:13 PM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: Hydroshock

If any FReepers are having trouble, FReepmail me. My specialty for 30 years has been real estate exchanging, consulting, and problem-solving. I taught real estate law, finance, practice, and economics at the college level for 10 years. This is not a solicitation. If you have problems, I will be glad to give you some free advice.


35 posted on 08/10/2007 1:13:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: John123

You hit the nail on the head.

Any bailout that happens (and there will be some type), won’t be to help J6P and his wife and 2 kids.
They don’t give a rats behind about them.

It’ll be to save the banks. And their stockholders. And all the billions of gummint pension fund dollars invested in bank equities.

The gummint needs the banks. They are the ones that cash all the gummint checks that buy the votes...


36 posted on 08/10/2007 1:20:17 PM PDT by djf (America welcomes immigrants! Sadly, America welcomes crimmigrants even more...)
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To: doug from upland

Thank you, I am sadly sure some will need it. I have looked at the markets as tehy are and have decided to cut expeditures adn boost savings.


37 posted on 08/10/2007 1:23:22 PM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: TChris

“Perhaps wiser standards such as 20% down on mortgages and a payment no more than about 30% of your monthly income will return to favor as a result of the tears.”

So people can be locked out of the market?...


38 posted on 08/10/2007 1:26:21 PM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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To: Porterville
So people can be locked out of the market?...

The only thing that "locks people out" of the housing market is the same thing which locks any would-be buyer out of any other market: He can't afford it.

Are you suggesting that the market somehow owes everyone a house, whether he can afford one or not?

39 posted on 08/10/2007 1:30:50 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: Hydroshock

love your keywords!


40 posted on 08/10/2007 1:34:38 PM PDT by Lizavetta ( Politicians: When they're speaking, they're lying - when they're not speaking, they're stealing.)
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