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The Hobbit Hole XXXIV - But better than rain or rippling streams...

Posted on 08/07/2007 7:52:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Sing hey! for the bath at close of day
That washes the weary mud away!
A loon is he that will not sing:
O! Water Hot is anoble thing!

O! Sweet is the sound of falling rain.
and the brook that leaps from hill to plain;
but better than rain or rippling streams
is Water Hot that smokes and steams.

O! Water cold we may pour at need
down a thirsty throat and be glad indeed;
but better is Beer, if drink we lack,
and Water Hot poured down the back.

O! Water is fair that leaps on high
in a fountain white beneath the sky;
but never did fountain sound so sweet
as splashing Hot Water with my feet!

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To: HairOfTheDog

And I can’t shoot, anyhow. ;-)

One of these days, we should remedy that...


7,361 posted on 11/11/2007 9:18:19 PM PST by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton [NaNo Count 23116/50000])
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To: RosieCotton

We all have our phobias. ;~)

Mine is wind :~)

Calm out, good. If it’s going to blow I’d rather it did it by day. I’m going to try to sleep.

I will grant you it’s an odd time for a bonfire.


7,362 posted on 11/11/2007 9:26:05 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: RosieCotton

Yes, one day we’ll remedy that. :~)


7,363 posted on 11/11/2007 9:27:18 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Ramius
Oh very nice! That's going to be great for my word count.

thankiethankiethankiethankie THANKS!

7,364 posted on 11/12/2007 3:22:43 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Don't taze me, bro! [[NaNoWriMo WoCo: 22502/50K]])
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To: Lil'freeper

Yesterday was a good day writin’...


7,365 posted on 11/12/2007 3:26:18 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Don't taze me, bro! [[NaNoWriMo WoCo: 26281/50K]])
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To: Rose in RoseBear
Real wool, especially wool that hasn't been treated to death, is a good insulator even when wet, isn't that correct?

Yes, that's quite true. Wool is still a good insulator when wet. But that's when you're out of the water, of course, and something dry would still be better.

7,366 posted on 11/12/2007 4:39:49 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Lil'freeper

Bah. I had a hard time getting into my story yesterday. Hopefully that improves today.


7,367 posted on 11/12/2007 4:53:10 AM PST by JenB (NaNoWriMo Word Count: 32,001/50000)
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To: JenB

Yeah, I need another 4K day. I really want to get past the 30K mark this weekend.


7,368 posted on 11/12/2007 5:07:14 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Don't taze me, bro! [[NaNoWriMo WoCo: 26281/50K]])
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To: Lil'freeper

I need to blast past this tricky spot. Need to do some re-plotting.


7,369 posted on 11/12/2007 5:11:21 AM PST by JenB (NaNoWriMo Word Count: 32,001/50000)
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To: Ramius

I’m thinking about reworking the scene so that they strip down and carry their clothes across in shopping bags (filled with air so they float). This will create wonderful romantic tension, I daresay. I’ve decided one character will discover she has very mild Raynaud’s disease - which is an exaggerated response to cold - that will give everyone a good scare and open up plot possibilities later on because it can also be triggered by stress.


7,370 posted on 11/12/2007 5:12:19 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Don't taze me, bro! [[NaNoWriMo WoCo: 26281/50K]])
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To: Lil'freeper

A fine idea.


7,371 posted on 11/12/2007 5:17:08 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I’ve been having a lot of fun on the Olympian response blog. :~)

So I see. I found it this morning. Nicely done.

7,372 posted on 11/12/2007 6:03:10 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Good morning... :~)

Have you had wind up there yet? Still none here, they say the brunt of the storm will be around 10 AM on. But they’re reporting a tree down in the road in Redmond.


7,373 posted on 11/12/2007 6:05:33 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Ramius; g'nad

Somebody need some wind?


7,374 posted on 11/12/2007 6:13:06 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (NaNoWriMo Word Count : 13,082/50,000)
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To: Ramius
Real wool, especially wool that hasn't been treated to death, is a good insulator even when wet, isn't that correct?

Yes, that's quite true. Wool is still a good insulator when wet. But that's when you're out of the water, of course, and something dry would still be better.

So ... it's best to strip down to skin if you're going to be submerged for a short time, say ten minutes, in icy water; keep your clothes as dry as possible for later changes. But if you're not completely submerged --- you're caught out in a nasty Pacific storm in January, for example --- it's best to wear wool, which, even if wet, will insulate. Cotton leaches warmth from the body, and fleece is useless.

How about some of the new synthetics ... Gor-Tex, for example?

Don't need it for this novel, but knowledge doesn't go stale ... thanks, Ramius!

7,375 posted on 11/12/2007 6:15:36 AM PST by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... 2007/11/12 --- 3,613/50,000....])
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To: HairOfTheDog

It’s blustery here... 20ish winds. Nothing to write about. But they keep saying gusts to 60 later in the morning. Not sure I like that.


7,376 posted on 11/12/2007 6:18:10 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

I don’t like it easier, but I’m glad it’s coming in daylight. Makes it easier. Just a little blustery here in the last five minutes.


7,377 posted on 11/12/2007 6:28:55 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Rose in RoseBear

I’d say so. Though, ten minutes in icy water is an eternity. :-)

On balance, while clothing does provide some insulation under water, it is more useful (maybe life and death essential) to have something dry to put on when you get out. Immediate warmth needs to be found.

Yes, there’s that old saying that “cotton kills”, and it is no joke. Cotton wicks heat away from the body faster than bare skin does.

Fleece and the other modern fabrics are a mixed bag. I don’t think fleece is much good wet-— but it does have the ability to dry fairly fast. Maybe somebody else can calibrate me on this but I think fleece can be wrung out with good success. It doesn’t hold much water. So wringing it out and putting it back on is maybe not a bad idea.

Gore-tex is a great windbreaker. Really key for staying warm. Layering, layering, layering. Standard pacific northwest outdoors apparel goes something like:

— polypropylene underwear. Good stuff. Wicks moisture away from skin.
— wool shirt.
— fleece jacket or vest. Extra insulation.
— gore-tex shell windbreaker. Lets moisture out, protects from wind. rain hood.
— Hat. Most of heat lost is from the head. Must have a hat or hoodie.


7,378 posted on 11/12/2007 6:41:12 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Ramius

7,379 posted on 11/12/2007 6:41:24 AM PST by g'nad
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To: HairOfTheDog

The drive in may be interesting. :-\


7,380 posted on 11/12/2007 6:44:12 AM PST by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton [NaNo Count 23116/50000])
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