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Seat Belts Key to Survival in Bridge Collapse
ABCNews ^ | Aug. 2, 2007 | EMILY FRIEDMAN

Posted on 08/03/2007 9:11:41 AM PDT by Daffynition

Plunging 60 feet off a bridge in a car sounds like a sure death sentence, but survival experts say people can and do walk away from such a calamity, for a simple reason: They were wearing their seat belts.

"The people who got out without a scratch absolutely had their seat belts on," says Brian Brawdy, survival expert and a former New York City police officer. "If you're knocked unconscious because you weren't wearing your seat belt, you won't be swimming to the surface."

Kimberly Brown, who survived the bridge collapse, told "Good Morning America's" Robin Roberts that had she not been wearing her seat belt, she was certain she would have gone through her car's windshield.

With four confirmed fatalities, Minneapolis authorities say they expect the death toll to rise as vehicles' that fell more than 60 feet into the Mississippi River are recovered.

Chances of surviving for those still submerged in the river now almost 24 hours later are remote, experts say. The combination of the impact and the speed at which cars sink give passengers mere minutes to avoid suffocation.

"[Drivers] would have three to five minutes, depending on how much of the water is rushing in and then given the size of the car," says Brawdy.

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TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Travel
KEYWORDS: 35w; bridgecollapse; seatbelt; survival
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"Now that we know all our bridges are going to collapse, it time to brush up on our 'escaping-sinking-car' skills"
1 posted on 08/03/2007 9:11:47 AM PDT by Daffynition
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Oh sure, like they really surveyed everyone on the bridge to see if they were wearing their seatbelts or not. How many kids on the bus were wearing seatbelts? None, since school buses don’t have seatbelts. I’m not saying seatbelts are a safety device, but lets have some honest reporting.


2 posted on 08/03/2007 9:16:00 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Daffynition

So, Brian “Jumps to Conclusions to Support My Own Pre-Determined Bias” Brawdy - can we pretty much assume that when they finally get through the murky water and start pulling bodies out of cars, that none of them will be wearing seatbelts?


3 posted on 08/03/2007 9:16:38 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (You can take the boy out of the country, but you just can't get the smell off his shoes.)
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Good thing school buses are exempt from the seat belt requirements.


4 posted on 08/03/2007 9:26:43 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Be prepared.


5 posted on 08/03/2007 9:26:53 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
Hydra Spyder ... with a 502 Cubic Inch Corvette LS2 Gen Iv engine ...I'm all set.


6 posted on 08/03/2007 9:29:50 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: coloradan
Just in case the bus flips over.


7 posted on 08/03/2007 9:31:51 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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Seat Belts Key to Survival in Bridge Collapse

Wait until they get to the cars underwater. Most bodies they find will stillbe belted in. I've studied survival in such situatins, and most people panic and cannot escape. The die with their seat belts on, assuming they survive the impact. In any case, it's a sucky situation.

8 posted on 08/03/2007 9:34:21 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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“Good thing school buses are exempt from the seat belt requirements.”

Good thing that school bus never actually hit the water or ya’ll would be singing a different tune. It’s hard enough for panicked adults to release a seat belt, can you imagine a busload of panicked children?


9 posted on 08/03/2007 9:34:35 AM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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10 posted on 08/03/2007 9:45:07 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Daffynition

Suh-weet! Who needs a steenkin’ bridge, anyway! :-)


11 posted on 08/03/2007 9:53:28 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (You can take the boy out of the country, but you just can't get the smell off his shoes.)
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Chances of surviving for those still submerged in the river now almost 24 hours later are remote, experts say

Good thing the "experts" cleared that one up for us. Do journalists think that we are so dumb that we have to have the most obvious things spelled out for us? I mean does any person in the world expect that somebody just might pop out of their submerged van after 24 hours having breathed out of empty beer cans or something?

12 posted on 08/03/2007 10:21:57 AM PDT by Gator101
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I always wear a seat belt. I’ve seen pictures of those who didn’t. I also attended the funeral of a 21 year old who hit a curb while at a low speed, and went through the sun-roof.
13 posted on 08/03/2007 10:25:06 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I always wear a seat belt.

Me too. I always figure that in the event I go in the water I at least want to improve my chances of being conscious so that then I can then deal with panicking or not. I also have a seat-belt knife in my center console and a steel center-punch in a sheath clipped to the side of my seat.

14 posted on 08/03/2007 10:31:36 AM PDT by Gator101
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Seat Belts Key to Survival in Bridge Collapse

...and using a hands-free headset for your cell phone

/ sarcasm

15 posted on 08/03/2007 10:38:00 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Gator101

Good idea. I keep meaning to get one of those combination cutter/hammer devices for my evil SUV.


16 posted on 08/03/2007 10:43:25 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
How many kids on the bus were wearing seatbelts? None, since school buses don’t have seatbelts. I’m not saying seatbelts are a safety device, but lets have some honest reporting.

Columbus Ohio School Bus Crash

17 posted on 08/03/2007 10:53:43 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Daffynition

Well...duh. What’s the point of even doing such a story? It’s 2007...are there actually still people who don’t wear seatbelts?


18 posted on 08/03/2007 10:57:31 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: trisham
If you do I recommend something with a serrated edge. Back in my Army days we were disposing of some old seat-belts so we tried out a seat-belt cutting tool that one of the other crewchief's had that kind of looks like one of those big enclosed envelope openers. It didn’t work as well as we thought. You had to keep backing it off to get another slice because the belts kept getting bound up in the guard. We were thinking that was probably something you wouldn’t want to have to worry about if your car was sinking or you were already underwater. A blade with a serrated edge went through those belts like butter though.

I also had to train in the “dunker” (a cage that is supposed to simulate a helicopter landing in water). The instructor knew we carried knives and selt-belt cutters so he reminded us to only use them as a last resort if the seat-belt wouldn’t release. I guess people get in the mindset that they have to use their tools even if the usual method would still work and is much quicker.

19 posted on 08/03/2007 10:59:27 AM PDT by Gator101
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A fall of sixty feet is like a head-on collision at 50 mph. I suspect airbags helped, too.


20 posted on 08/03/2007 11:01:46 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (WARNING: Dangerous to pregnant women and small children. May burst into flames at any time.)
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