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Cameron Macauley
The Boy Who Lived Before
Extraordinatry Children ^
| july 15th, 2007
| DancesWithCats
Posted on 07/16/2007 3:43:04 PM PDT by DancesWithCats
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Now, I do not believe in reincarnation. I don't believe in ghosts and spirits, nor do I believe in elves or gnomes either. And if this were an adult telling us this tale of what had happened to them, I'd be saying, 'yeah. right. sure' but when a child comes up with this story? For years? Then I wonder about it. Unless mom is just a big fat lier and told the boy to tell these tales. But with a child? The truth usually spills all out ... 'and then mom said to say this or that ...' so it does make me wonder. What do y'all think about this ?
To: DancesWithCats
... liar ... sorry about the misspell!
To: DancesWithCats
How interesting. I have to wonder, who are the witnesses to his telling this story at age 2? I’ve been throught the Twos seven times; their communication skills are underwhelming.
Now a five-year-old could easily make this whole thing up, especially if he saw something in a movie, TV show, or book that captured his imagination. My five-year-old plans to move to Jupiter and make everyone there speak Greek.
My suggestions are either that his mother has told him stories which he has come to believe are true (very easily done with young children), or that he has made up a story, perhaps based on fiction, that he believes is true.
It’s interesting that he had a dad in his “past life” story, while he doesn’t seem to have one in reality.
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posted on
07/16/2007 3:49:52 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
To: Tax-chick
How interesting. I have to wonder, who are the witnesses to his telling this story at age 2? Ive been throught the Twos seven times; their communication skills are underwhelming. Now a five-year-old could easily make this whole thing up, especially if he saw something in a movie, TV show, or book that captured his imagination. My five-year-old plans to move to Jupiter and make everyone there speak Greek. My suggestions are either that his mother has told him stories which he has come to believe are true (very easily done with young children), or that he has made up a story, perhaps based on fiction, that he believes is true. Its interesting that he had a dad in his past life story, while he doesnt seem to have one in reality. Yes, that would be my thought, too. That mom began very early to teach him this 'story' and she knew bits and pieces herself were true ... but it seems awful far-fetched. Over a 3 year period? Still ... people will do some odd things to keep themselves amused. Anything is possible.
To: DancesWithCats
There is this little American boy who remembers being a pilot shot down during WWII in the Pacific. He started babbling about this very early and would come up with names of people and names of parts of his plane that there was just no way he’d know. Some of the airplane parts were unique to that era. He kept this up for a few years but as he got older he mentioned it less and less. When the story was put out a lot of people on FR thought he must have memorized tv shows. But the parents had said the kid was so young during this he was not watching historical shows or anything else that would be so accurate. The person he claimed to be really did die there as did another pilot or two he also named. Creepyville indeed.
To: DancesWithCats
Maybe he has had a babysitter, grandmother, aunt, or something, who has told him stories that he has assimilated as true. Young children have virtually NO ability to sort truth from fiction.
A child’s longing for a father is very intense, and could result into his latching on to this narrative as a fixation. I don’t know what has really happened here, but there are a variety of possibilities for this boy to have acquired his belief in the story without anyone’s intending to upset him.
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:03:46 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
To: DancesWithCats
I tend to believe some of these stories. Perhaps some of the details get scrambled, like a dream.
I don’t know but when I was young I experienced some really weird deja-vu episodes when visiting places that I had never been to before. Kinda creepy.
To: A knight without armor
But the parents had said the kid was so young during this he was not watching historical shows or anything else that would be so accurate.Again, the kicker is "the parents said ...".
When my oldest daughter was a toddler, she watched CNN and the History Channel. She remembered enough information from different shows that she recognized Audie Murphy's picture when we visited a museum exhibit about him, and she was able (at around three, early talker!) to discuss why he was famous.
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:07:05 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
To: Tax-chick
Maybe this is one of those by proxy syndromes where the parent is sick and seeking attention by setting the kid up. With everything else in life I can’t imagine throwing this much energy and time into a stupid scam that takes years to pull off.
To: DancesWithCats
Yes, that would be my thought, too. "At the University of Virginia, a department has been set up to investigate these stories."
A Department !!! You must think the folks at UVa are either stupid or naive.
ML/NJ
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:17:12 PM PDT
by
ml/nj
To: A knight without armor
Maybe this is one of those by proxy syndromes where the parent is sick and seeking attention by setting the kid up.That's a possibility. Without more information, we have no way of knowing how this particular story, names and place and detail, was transmitted to the boy.
With everything else in life I cant imagine throwing this much energy and time into a stupid scam that takes years to pull off.
Single moms on welfare have a lot of spare time. We don't know for sure that this is the situation here, but it seems to be an absolute majority of "families" in the UK these days.
I would still be inclined to believe that it's an innocent misunderstanding of some information that he's acquired, simply because it's so mean to deliberately upset a child in this way.
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:23:32 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
To: DancesWithCats
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:23:55 PM PDT
by
dynachrome
(Henry Bowman is right.)
To: ml/nj
They probably mean a grant-funded study group of some sort, under the psychology department.
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:24:35 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
To: A knight without armor
When the story was put out a lot of people on FR thought he must have memorized tv shows. But the parents had said the kid was so young during this he was not watching historical shows or anything else that would be so accurate. The person he claimed to be really did die there as did another pilot or two he also named. Creepyville indeed. But maybe when he was in preschool they watched some historical shows? Or discussed some stories out of books? Or when he was being watched by others? Odd ... but I'm certain that there is a logical explanation for it. I just don't believe in anyone having lived a 'former life'. Had a boyfriend once who on the second (and last) date told me that he believed himself to be reincarnated from an ancient Roman captain ... hit the Date Auto Eject!!! LOL I immediately said 'you're talking to a total nonbeliever'. We parted friends but that was the last of the heart to heart discussions!
To: dynachrome
t is indicative of the typical lowering of the standards of critical thinking when it comes to belief in the supernatural that defenders of preposterous stories such as this one find easily accessible information to be incontrovertible proof of their veracity. For example, Tighe talks about kissing the Blarney stone and knew that the act requires the assistance of someone who holds you as you lean backwards and face up to kiss the stone. This is common knowledge and photos of this are available in hundreds of sources, yet this fact has been cited as strong evidence that Tighe really kissed the stone in a previous incarnation
Yes! See? Blarney-Babble.
To: DancesWithCats
Maybe “Blarney Rubble”, Fred Flintsone’s friend. ;)
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07/16/2007 4:39:17 PM PDT
by
dynachrome
(Henry Bowman is right.)
To: DancesWithCats
Had a boyfriend once who on the second (and last) date told me that he believed himself to be reincarnated from an ancient Roman captain ...You notice they're always reincarnated from someone notable, never a stable slave or washerwoman.
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:39:17 PM PDT
by
Scothia
( When something important is going on, silence is a lie.)
To: Scothia; DancesWithCats
Or one of the 50% of children (historically) who died before age 10.
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:41:10 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("A dependence on mass immigration is always a structural weakness and should be understood as such.")
To: DancesWithCats
"Had a boyfriend once who on the second (and last) date told me that he believed himself to be reincarnated from an ancient Roman captain ... hit the Date Auto Eject!!! LOL I immediately said 'you're talking to a total nonbeliever'. We parted friends but that was the last of the heart to heart discussions." I had a girlfriend in college who was a big believer in this stuff. She now teaches yoga out in Berkeley, CA. She ended up marrying a man she claimed to have been married to in past lives.
They got divorced in this one.
I thought it was telling in this story that when the historical records were checked, the kid's story didn't hold up.
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posted on
07/16/2007 4:43:13 PM PDT
by
Volunteer
(Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
To: Tax-chick
They probably mean a grant-funded study group of some sort, under the psychology department. Why don't you find out and report back. My experience with the folks in Charlottesville is that they don't bother with anything frivolous.
ML/NJ
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posted on
07/16/2007 5:18:33 PM PDT
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ml/nj
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