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Copper thieves die trying ( Darwin Award winner ? )
Associated Press ^ | Jul. 16, 2007 | KRISTEN WYATT

Posted on 07/16/2007 3:35:05 PM PDT by george76

Firefighters weren't sure what was causing the smoke rising from a former discount store in this Baltimore suburb. The place had been abandoned for years, the interior stripped to the walls.

When they got inside July 2, they found only one thing burning: a 41-year-old man who became engulfed in flames and died after cutting through a high-voltage line.

Sean Phelps became another ghastly casualty of what authorities say is a deadly national trend: copper wiring thefts.

High copper prices in recent years have thieves breaking into power plants and abandoned factories to rip out the wiring. Vandals are even stealing from gravesites.

There is no national count of people killed in copper theft attempts, but news accounts put the death toll at about two dozen over the past 12 months.

When Phelps cut the wire carrying at least 220 volts, he was hit with a powerful electrical arc, similar to what happens when lightning strikes or a transformer blows.

Most copper thefts are nuisances, such as a recent rash at a Maryland youth baseball park that has left Little Leaguers without lights for night games.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: copper; copperthefts; corruption; maryland; pasadena; thefts
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To: Clam Digger
TEST AND GROUND If it ain't grounded, it ain't dead.

This guy never would have made a lineman.

21 posted on 07/16/2007 4:02:26 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: george76
Regarding copper theft, I don’t understand why laws can’t be passes (if not already) that limits copper scrap dealers are forbidden from purchasing copper wire from someone who is obviously fencing (pun acknowledged) and not a legitimate contractor. If there is no buyer, the thieves would likely dry up.
22 posted on 07/16/2007 4:02:54 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
We also have the big Fluke multi-meter. What a godsend that is! (it ain't 25 bucks though!)

The only problem I ever had with my Fluke 87 was that some low-life stole mine!

Mark

23 posted on 07/16/2007 4:03:19 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: I still care

I’ll bet this rash of copper and brass thefts has more than just a little to do with illegal immigration.


24 posted on 07/16/2007 4:03:41 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: george76

220 volts is “high voltage”? Reporter ain’t all that bright, neither.


25 posted on 07/16/2007 4:06:10 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: jws3sticks

Bingo!

The metal scrap yard operators are in on it.

The homeless dreck who show up with copper cables are thieves to anyone without an agenda.


26 posted on 07/16/2007 4:06:43 PM PDT by Stallone (Fred Thompson is the Man for the Times)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I would much rather use the Fluke than the Wiggy. I was at one plant in the Detroit area where one electrician used a Wiggy to check a ciruit. Turned out to be a 6600 volt vacuum breaker. The Wiggy turned into a plasma ball, he got a lot of third degree burns. I was about twenty five feet away at the time, going over some PLC code.

Of course the electrian was using the wrong tool around the vacuum breaker. There are special voltage probes designed specifically for those higher voltages.


27 posted on 07/16/2007 4:06:44 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I work for a company that routinely does civil work for electrical contractors. Not little stuff, we install the ductbanks from power plants to substations. The electrical safety stuff we have to go through to be anywhere near the high-voltage stuff is intense and expensive, but we have never had an injury or death. We do fire new guys who try to play hot-shot and don’t 100% adhere to procedure, though. There is no room for error.

It’s nice being the #1 contractor on the preferred contractors list.


28 posted on 07/16/2007 4:06:52 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: george76

Looks like the perp wasn’t trained in proper tagout lockout procedures.


29 posted on 07/16/2007 4:10:50 PM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Your results may vary. Void where prohibited.)
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To: jws3sticks
Regarding copper theft, I don’t understand why laws can’t be passes (if not already) that limits copper scrap dealers are forbidden from purchasing copper wire from someone who is obviously fencing (pun acknowledged) and not a legitimate contractor.

Have you ever met any of the guys that do recycling? The guys that bring the stuff in are the weirdos.

30 posted on 07/16/2007 4:11:47 PM PDT by ikka
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To: gieriscm

“Fuumph!” er... um... Ping!

LOL!

Mike


31 posted on 07/16/2007 4:12:49 PM PDT by BCR #226 (Abortion is the pagan sacrifice of an innocent virgin child for the sins of the mother and father.)
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To: george76

This is not unusual, and happens from time to time. Not every day, mind you, but often enough to remind the rest of us why we shouldn’t be stealing copper. Especially copper that is still connected to the utility’s system.


32 posted on 07/16/2007 4:16:15 PM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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To: george76

This is another problem we’ve imported (or has snuk across the border).
These people are great scavengers, And it doesn’t matter if someone owns that “salvage”. They’ve been cutting off the copper ground cables on electric poles around here as well.


33 posted on 07/16/2007 4:16:48 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: I still care
I remember a woman on Fox the other day, devastated because someone stole her daughter’s memorial plaque.

The problem is not with the thieves, but with shady recycling places that accept things like obvious grave markers. No market -- no thieves.

34 posted on 07/16/2007 4:16:59 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: I see my hands

Huh? copper bottles?

WTF are you talking about? A deposit for buying copper?
So, you want to pay a deposit on the pc you are using because the power supply has a few coils of copper wire in it?


35 posted on 07/16/2007 4:20:33 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Clam Digger
Crane touches power lines
36 posted on 07/16/2007 4:22:24 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Past Your Eyes

A good lineman knows that a ground shouldn’t be considered “dead” either.


37 posted on 07/16/2007 4:25:43 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Past Your Eyes
"220 volts is “high voltage”? Reporter ain’t all that bright, neither."

That is high voltage, more than enough to kill you dead. All depends on how many amps are behind it. 220, 10 amps, say bye bye.

38 posted on 07/16/2007 4:29:13 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yeah, it can kill you, so can your 12 volt car battery, but neither are considered high voltage.


39 posted on 07/16/2007 4:31:05 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: FreedomCalls

I’ve seen the crane video before - it’s impressive. If that doesn’t teach respect for high voltage, nothing will!


40 posted on 07/16/2007 4:32:42 PM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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