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At 19 months that child should be well enough behaved to sit quietly thru 2 hours of church, once per week. Both of mine did.

Really? My 4 year old used to act up in church. He knew he was going to get a spanking but I guess he figured it was worth it. One time he started grabbing pews and screaming "help me. She's gonna spank me" as I hauled him to the bathroom. It almost worked too. One lady he made eye contact with followed us and pleaded his case that she knew he would be good the next time.

ROFL! My mother-in-law tells a story about dragging my husband out of church when he was little. He was yelling, "Don't hit me, mommy! Don't hit me!"

Of course, our third child tried the same thing with me.

My oldest, though, *ugh*. I got to the point that if we made it past the sacrament it would be a good day. One time, after a very trying time I had one of the brethren approach me. I was so sure he was going to lecture me. Especially when he started with, "When my mother would take me to church..." He continued, "she would swear that I would behave this time. And every week she had to take me out." I appreciated that. Most people would never guess by looking at my 13 year old that he used to be worse than all three of his brothers combined.

“One time he started grabbing pews and screaming “help me. She’s gonna spank me” as I hauled him to the bathroom. “

One of my friends had a daughter whose kindergarten had an Officer Friendly out to speak with the kids. He told them that if someone tried to snatch them, they needed to start yellng, “This is not my mother! I don’t know this person!”

Well, little princess acted up when she was at the mall with her mom, and her mom started to take her out to the car for a little attitude adjustment.

Guess what little princess started yelling.

> Really? My 4 year old used to act up in church. He knew he was going to get a spanking but I guess he figured it was worth it.

He’d turned the occasion into a transaction. And it sounds like he played brinkmanship, beautifully.

My 4 year old used to act up in church. He knew he was going to get a spanking but I guess he figured it was worth it. One time he started grabbing pews and screaming "help me. She's gonna spank me" as I hauled him to the bathroom. It almost worked too. One lady he made eye contact with followed us and pleaded his case that she knew he would be good the next time.
Too funny! Except for the interfering ninny, I'll bet that started a ripple of laughter among the pews!

Until my nephew was born, I was one of those child-hating singles. I'm still not a "kid person," but my role as Auntie has made me much more understanding. No matter how charming and cute the little buggers may be on initial impression, I do try to move away from them on a plane if there's a spare seat to be had. All the same, as long as the child isn't shrieking, I'm content with whatever sounds issue as long as the child is happy and contained by his parents. The "bye bye plane" wouldn't have bothered me one bit.

The way he acted on GMA is typical, especially outside of his normal setting. Kids just do that. *shrug*

As to the flight attendant, if the stories from the mother and other passesngers hold true, she was way out of line and deserves firing. A deliberate lie to alter the flight plan and disrupt all passengers' travel? Gimme a break. Her excuse about having a bad day holds no water. They ALL were delayed by 11 hours to take that flight, a flight meant to take only one hour. And yeah, I'd snap right back over her snotty instruction to drug a kid that's not hers.