Posted on 07/03/2007 6:54:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce
Typical bunk from you. As usual, and expected, you attempt to trot out some foreign news source that poor mouths US companies. Do you actually live overseas, or just wish you did?
I can attest to the ease to which this can be done, and I am not a Linux guru or evangelist. Use the live CD to determine whether you're computer will run Ubuntu. Yo u may be surprised by what it can do.
Wow, you are really sensitive! You must own a lot of MS Stock!
And yet MS, until the pig that is vista, managed to get them out on a very regular two to three year schedule.
especially one that has to work with every piece of hardware and software.
Umm this is more the work of hardware manufactures who write the drivers. One can not simultaneously take credit for 'making it work on everything', and passing the buck on some buggy systems to third party drivers.
(And before any of you linux evangelists jump on me, show me a Linux distro that’s easy to install and remove software and hardware from for the average user that doesn’t require compiling software on the fly)
Ubuntu, Red Hat, Fedora (Though this uses bleeding edge softare), Suse, ..... They all have binary package managers and most of them come with a graphical interface to that manager.
You really needs to stop looking at this from a geek’s perspective, and look at it from the average user’s perspective.
That depends wholly upon the hardware you are attempting to use it with. I have a dell laptop I use for work that tested with Knoppix, Ubuntu and Kubuntu disks and it runs perfectly. All hardware is recognised right from the 'live' CD including wireless. I'm currently using FC6 and don't have any issues to speak of with it.
These days, Vista is going to have more problems recognising some things like printers, scanners, and other devices that don't (and won't) have vista drivers for them than distributions like Ubuntu or RedHat are.
Do not ever post to me again. I’m already blocking your posts. I do not want to see you in “My Comments” either.
You'll have to be more specific about what version of windows you mean these days.
Vista has limited support for many types of devices.
In the case of XP, it's probably generally true, but not necessarily so for vista.
I talked with some folks in a local computer shop and they said most of their business lately has been replacing Vista on new computers with XP.
Bravo Sierra, if your going to lie, lie a little smaller. Fedora does *not* require you to compile drivers on 99% of hardware. I think once I had installed an am/fm radio card and I had to compile that one. Fedora / RedHat / CentOS are the main distros I have used but I have used Knoppix and BackTrack (Formally WHAX) on literally dozens of different typs of hardware and, because they are on CD, not once did I have to compile a driver.
I can say this for video and wifi, I won’t even get into trying to get all my laptop ports working...
This, is maybe, the only thing that some distros still have serious problems with. Still with fedora core 4 and a pcmcia card for wireless all I had to do was change the startup order so that pcmcia came up before the network. Not fun to discover the problem but at least the fedora developers have changed that order in 5,6,7.
If you gave a copy of Linux to a normal user and asked them to install it and use it, they would be screwed since they wouldn’t know how to install or uninstall software, they wouldn’t know where to look for drivers, they wouldn’t know what to do.
And if you gave the average person a copy of vista and asked them to install it they would be screwed because most people have never installed windows they get it from Dell or HP. Yes if you handed someone a built linux distro they would have to be shown which button to click to pull up gyum so they could one click install software. Many distros are lacking in documentation but not all and if you find yourself always compiling and living in dependency hell it likely you're making your life harder than it has to be.
Sounds like Vista was released before it was ready. I’m not surprised.
It just wasn't ready to be released.
The problem with Linux is that it’s not easy enough for the common user to use or fix if there’s a problem.
If they screw up and use the wrong video module and X doesn’t start there’s no easy way to fix it half the time, unless you know to run XF86Config under root, and even then there’s no guarantees they can fix it.
My point is that Linux is not easy to use, fix or install and use out of the box.
Please the reason places like Geek Squad exist is because many users cant fix a problem on *windows* if it breaks. and, BTW when the vendor solution is ‘wipe the system with this handy dandy restore disk’ you’re not fixing the system youre reloading it.
And you can install Fedora (A linux distro) by inserting a cd and clicking ok about a dozen times..
Considering the development environment from Microsoft, Visual Studio, is also as bloated and buggy as anything else Microsoft puts out why not try something else? When you can’t trust your compiler it’s time to switch.
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It must be nice to have people pay big money to be beta testers.
meh thats just GE he can have a happy celebration when one American company has a bad day on the market and chide you for being unamerican because you don’t like MS the next... He is somewhat entertaining but for the most part I filter him out recently..
Even though I dont see his post, directly, I will make the courteously of pinging him here because I am talking about him.
Maybe Windows developers are tired of developing a great Windows app and later have Microsoft enter that same market and take away their business. That behavior kind of squashes the enthusiasm for developing Windows apps. I’d like to see MS stick to the OS, Office, and their developer tools but leave the photo editing, music players, etc. to other companies. Problem is they have too many developers and not enough to do.
Ive tried linux off and on for years. My only beef is copying DVDS. Yes i know that it comes with software that will work fine for data and such. However, i have a four year old and a one year old that love to turn there DVD movies into coasters. I have not been able to find ANY dvd software to make a back up copy of there kids movies.
DVD shrink doesnt work nor any others that i can find. The mount points are all changed from older versions making these apps useless.
Cedega allows me to play World of Warcraft(the only game i generally play anyway)
If i could find something that works i would go back to Ubuntu.
So please, until the Linux community stops being so high and mighty, and starts making an OS that is easy to use out of the box, it will never surpass MS, end of story.
I am faced with a choice now. Become a semi-geek and dump Microshaft, or encourage their arrogance by "going along".
Good-bye, Microshaft!
Surpass Microshaft? I don't really care, one way or the other. I just don't plan to be part of the dark side much longer.
Did I mention I hate 'protected content'? And I don't download 'free' anything.
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