Came here for some help about the OK City bombing

Always have wondered

[cubswinby100]

I always wondered if Timothy McVaigh really was the one who did the whole thing.

While talking to some friends about this one mentioned there has been some work done here and some published articles about a possible Muslim connection.

[maine-iac7]

Wouldn’t it be nice if Freepers and the rest of the US citizens got one scintilla as concerned about this as the BORDER!

It goes far deeper than just the OK bombing - if we demanded to get to the bottom of this - is could uncover the corruption/traitorous Commies in our gov’t = and we know who the head ones are - and maybe keep them from pounding the final nail in our coffins, plunging us irrevocably into Communism.

Communisms greatest tool is use a big distraction to get the attention of everyone so het up and concentrating on it that we don’t look over our shoulders to see what they are doing behind our backs.

Immigration isn’t the only thing threatening our country and our very freedoms. WE need to stop being Johny-one-notes and smarten up.

We should jump on this OK bombing Now and not let it die the slow death the perps (and I am referring to the gov’t perps) are counting on. Now, while the traitorous libRats are trying to fry Bush/Chaney with unconstitutional subpoenas, is a godo time to make a big ruckus, make demands, demonstrate with signs - the media loves that - and let the sheeple know what the evidence is. If if shows that the cover-up goes all to the way to the top of the chain - with members of both party members involved, so be it.
I isn’t just a matter of finally getting the truth out - it’s a matter of blocking these same traitors from being in the highest of positions again - for if they make it again, we are done for as a free people.

[Spunky]

I still say Jose Padilla looks like John Doe #3, but Jayna Davis says it is another guy who is John Doe #3. Can’t think of his name.

[ovrtaxt]

Include me in- for what it’s worth.

[maine-iac7]

I’m a portrait artist - and I would say that if the artist had been sitting in front of Padilla to do the drawing, it would look the same -

This photo and the sketch should be plastered everywhere - It will get more peoples attention than thousands of words - it would be a knock on the head, which is sometimes needed to get someones attention - and then go from there....

Can we get Rush, Hannity, et al to get this out there and beat the drums - along with a line made famous by Fred Thompson during the Nixen hearings; the one about who knew and when did they know it.

Get this photo/sketch out there and mention it was during Clintooons watch (you’d be surprised how many today don’t realize that) and ask the question. This simple approach could be the wedge that pries open this can of worms

[cubswinby100]

I’ve just said I wondered if it was the whole story and I always have. Something always seemed fishy to me.

Now I will spend time researching more.

[cubswinby100]

Thank you everyone. I have some net sploring to do!

And I love this site. I had heard about it in the past but got tied up as a monitor/director of 2 Cub fans and 1 Bears fan site that keep me hopping like Sammy Sosa after hitting a homerun.

[labette]

Welcome to FR. Click on the keywords just below your post to see other related FR posts.

Try Googling up {spelling?}:

- Carol Howe
- Elohim City
- Andreas Strassmeier
- JD Cash
- Jayna Davis

Don't let anyone do your reasoning for you. That's your job.

[buccaneer81]

that keep me hopping like Sammy Sosa after hitting a homerun.

That's cork that keeps Sammy bouncing...

[RightWhale]

Everything is fishy. Why the focus on OKC? It was not an isolated incident.

[DBrow]

Andreas Strassmeir

Roger Moore

Geary Lake

Elohim City

are all interesting search terms when linked to McVeigh and OKC.

Also, look for the trial transcripts, Nichol’s is still online but I think McVeigh’s were taken down (I can’t find them anymore).

[Perdogg]

I believe both Peter Lance and Laurie Mylroie have covered this angle.

[keat]

ib4Z just in case.

I like your thinking.

I laid down a precautionary ibtz a few days ago and even pinged a mod. Got flamed heavily by some others on the thread but the newbie troll poster was exposed and banned within 30 minutes.

I'm always leery of newbies who jump in with such obvious topics. Like they are building cred on the forum.

Anyway, you can always apologize later.

[Oorang]

Scroll down to the bottom-right of the website linked below. Lots of interesting OKCity bombing information.

http://intelwire.egoplex.com/

[BenLurkin]

Was Tim McVeigh
an agent of Iraq?
Top Defense officials think so, reports U.S. News

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Posted: October 24, 2001
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

A few top Defense officials believe Timothy McVeigh, executed for his role in the bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, was an Iraqi agent, reports U.S. News in the Oct. 29 issue.

The stunning news item is buried in the “Washington Whispers” column of the magazine under the byline of Paul Bedard.

“Some dismiss it as being akin to Elvis sightings, but a few top Defense officials think Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh was an Iraqi agent,” Bedard writes. “The theory stems from a never-before-reported allegation that McVeigh had allegedly collected Iraqi telephone numbers. Why haven’t we heard this before about the case of the executed McVeigh? Conspiracy theorists in the Pentagon think it’s part of a cover-up.”

Those unnamed Defense Department officials are not alone.

Last week, House impeachment counsel David Schippers told WorldNetDaily Radio host Geoff Metcalf’s audience that he is convinced of a Mideast connection in the bombing. Schippers represents Jayna Davis, the former Oklahoma City television reporter who attempted to follow up the Mideast connection story until her bosses told her to let it go.

“I am thoroughly convinced that there was a dead-bang Middle Eastern connection in the Oklahoma City bombing,” said Schippers. “I think bin Laden was behind it. I think that there were Middle Eastern people on the scene running away.”

There would not necessarily be a contradiction between an Iraqi connection and a bin Laden connection. According to terror expert Yossef Bodansky, author of “Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America,” bin Laden worked closely with Iraq for years.

[BenLurkin]

“Officials said Al Muhajir was born in New York on October 18, 1970, and moved to Chicago when he was 5 years old.

“Sources said he served three years in a juvenile detention center in suburban Chicago for aggravated battery, armed robbery and attempted armed robbery. He was released in May 1988, shortly before his 18th birthday, and put on parole until he turned 21.

“He was arrested in 1991 on a gun and assault charges stemming from a road rage incident in Sunrise, Florida.

“The officers who made the arrest on October 8, 1991 — Lt. Charles Vitale and Detective Neil Lawrence — told CNN that Al Muhajir fired a .38-caliber handgun after getting into an argument with two men in another car at a gas station. No one was injured.

“He was charged with two counts of aggravated assault, one count of using a firearm in the commission of a felony and one count of carrying a concealed firearm.

“While Al Muhajir was in jail, he physically attacked a deputy, resulting in additional charges.

“Al Muhajir spent 303 days in the county jail and was sentenced to a year’s probation.

“After his release in 1992, Al Muhajir was cited for several traffic violations in south Florida, Broward County officials said. His most recent violation was in November 1997.

From: “U.S. authorities capture ‘dirty bomb’ suspect
His associate captured in Pakistan, U.S. officials say”
June 10, 2002 Posted: 11:47 PM EDT (0347 GMT)

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/06/10/dirty.bomb.suspect/index.html

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

Glen Beck

This might help.

[BenLurkin]

As to why McVeigh would join the enemy in doing such as evil act:

THE COURT: Would you please come to the lectern to make that statement.You may speak, Mr. McVeigh.

THE DEFENDANT: If the Court please, I wish to use the words of Justice Brandeis dissenting in Olmstead to speak for me. He wrote, "Our Government is the potent,the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example."

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

Another angle you might want to look at while going down this road is that the first responding firefighters and EMS personnel stated that when part of the basement was exposed by the blast they saw large amounts of weapons and military equipment. It was even included in early TV reports but was them completely ignored.

I only read a small excerpt about it and never got around to doing and due diligence.

FWIW.

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

TV Report about multiple bombs

[Armedanddangerous]

does anyone else remember the report of a leg in camo clothing that they found that was never matched to any of the victims? I always kind of thought that might be a clue.