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North American Union: Deconstructing the U.S.
newsmax ^ | Friday, June 16, 2006 | Diane Alden

Posted on 06/09/2007 12:17:40 AM PDT by Fred Nerks

This is Part I of a three-part series.

No one in their right mind would consider Jerome Corsi a liberal or a leftist. Corsi received a Ph.D. from Harvard University in political science in 1972 and has written many books and articles, including co-authoring with John O'Neill the No. 1 New York Times best seller "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry."

The 2004 book was a defining character study of presidential candidate John Kerry. "Unfit for Command" may have been the single biggest reason John Kerry is not president today and George W. Bush is. He is also author of "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians."

Corsi is not a conspiracy nut, and he does his homework on the various issues he tackles. I suggest that the American people of all political orientation give full attention to a major event that frames immigration policy, the Dubai Ports deal and badly negotiated trade deals, as well as the sellout of American interests by our favorite politicians of both parties - and no party.

Corsi and Minuteman co-founder Jim Gilcrist wrote the book "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders." The book is a timely investigation into how our nation's southern border is disintegrating into violence and chaos, human smuggling, drug running and incursions by Mexican military and police into U.S. territory.

Researching and writing the book forced him to ask some hard questions about the WHY of our porous border and the ultimate goal of those who are allowing it to remain a national disgrace of lawlessness and corruption.

In any event, I decided to interview Dr. Corsi after reading an article he wrote for Human Events Online: "President Quietly Creating 'NAFTA Plus'." [ http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15059 ]

His responses to my questions were astounding.

During the interview, Dr. Corsi told me that everyone is asking the obvious question about open borders. Why is the Bush administration failing to deal with them in any effective manner except to propose "guest worker amnesty." But most people don't pursue the answer to that question, perhaps because their instincts tell them they will not like the TRUE answer. As a conservative who supported the Bush administration in the past, Corsi found the answer difficult to take.

His conclusions and answer to the question of why nothing of any consequence is being done about our porous borders is startling and disturbing: "We are close to a coup d'état by the executive branch. What I have come across in my investigation reminds me of the plot in the blockbuster '60s book 'Seven Days in May' ... having to do with a military coup plot against civilian government. The conclusions I arrive at seem more in line with some fantastic plot line of the TV series '24'."

Corsi related to me that the most recent coup attempt against our nation, system and sovereignty is not being conducted by the U.S. military. Rather, it is being achieved through men who place commerce and commercial interests at the top of what mankind is about. It is very Hegelian and Marxist, at its center encompassing a belief that people are primarily motivated by economics and materialism, that trade and commerce and having material goods are the primary factors in creating a peaceful world. The policymakers who hold those attitudes have had immense influence on George W. Bush.

Immigration, open borders, trade deals, all of it is part and parcel of an attempt to create a North American Union. In its present form it is known as The Security and Prosperity Partnership signed by the "three amigos," Bush, Fox and Canada's Paul Martin at Waco, Texas, in 2005.

The idea for the North American Union has been floated for a couple of decades. It went into hyperdrive after the Cold War. At that time, powerful groups including the guiding lights in the Council on Foreign Relation, government, business and the denizens of the Beltway's Iron Triangle came into their own. Last year's report by a CFR task force entitled "Building a North American Community" is the outline for the North American Union, which they would like to have up and running by 2010.

The task force is quite clear that one of the major goals of this effort is to remake boundaries around the three North American nations. Individual countries will relate to a supranational parliamentary or governing system rather than to their own. National governments will still have limited power but not so much sovereignty. Immigration, in their ultimate plan, will mean open borders and a vastly diminished importance of citizenship in the three nations.

This is simply a new brand of old feudalism being set into motion by none other than the hero of so many Republicans, George W. Bush.

Read Part II, North American Union: Coup d'état American Style.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: amnesty; borders; corsi; cuespookymusic; icecreammandrake; nafta; nau; northamericanunion; spp
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To: Fred Nerks

1) It’ll never happen

2) I like fighting as much as anyone, but we don’t need any more here over silly stuff like this. :)


101 posted on 06/09/2007 9:03:41 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: beckysueb

What if we are being set up....what if Fred is a globalist too?

I’ve written Fred and asked him some point blank questions about the SPP, NAU, and NAFTA....if he responds I will share that here.


102 posted on 06/09/2007 9:07:26 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: ThreePuttinDude
"now that the time has come to actually move in that direction, everyone now says:
“What the HELL are we doing?”

Discussion of making Canada the 51st state, or even Mexico the 52nd and Honduras 53rd, Guatamala...etc.... would be far more palatable than the way they're going about this.

The people pushing this agenda of a North American Union have absolutely no intention of preserving the 1st and 2nd amendments along the way.... things are linked sometimes and in this case, the merger with Canada and Mexico will be linked with the disolution of whatever is left of our original constitution.

and just in case we citizens don't happen to agree, it's in their interest to just open the borders wide and watch our nation be over run anyway....

Some of these things are not unrelated and Mr. Corsi is right on track

103 posted on 06/09/2007 9:10:07 AM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: beckysueb

Educate them, and they’ll make trouble.
“Well to them, it would probably be trouble if indeed they are up to no good like you say. To us, it would be like I said, if they are educated, they will become assimilated. I don’t really know about the next generation of Mexican children here in America, though. I figure they will learn the language just from being exposed to it. My greatgrandparents imigrated here from Germany in the 1840s. My grandfather and grandmother were both raised in German speaking households yet they knew perfect English by the time they were very young. I am not willing to say that the Mexican children will be ignorant just like their parents. Indoctrinated, maybe. But again, we underestimate the natural intelligence of children. My 15 year old grandaughter has become quite conservative, in spite of the schools best efforts to indoctrinate her.”

I concur and also would like to point out/clarify some key differences between the groups of early immigrants and todays immagrants. The European and Asian immigration boom produced multiple dialects where the next generation was educated to our culture and assimilated very well as you suggest.

However, the first generation of immigrants had to learn enough english to understand our basic laws and the immigration process and further had to swear allegiance when nationalized to America.

Another thing, Americans did use these early immigrants almost as slave labor at first, similar to the Mexicans but it was We the People who forced assimilation to our values, not the governments and current elites corrupt standards.

We gave them no social hand outs by the governmnent. The early immigrants were given work, for and shelter by benevolent American citizens whom it was their choice to offer and this also taught general codes of benevolent behavior to the European/Asian immigrants whom assimilated and passsed down these values to their kids.

In this case of Mexican immigration boom, the government and elites are forcing benevolence as an entity on the American people and we resent it to the point of near violence.

This backward process changes our entire culture and respect for the rule of law and due process forever and our opportunity as individual Americans to be benevolent to foreigners as a whole. It forces We the People to correct the elites as enemies within at a time we have serious enemies outside our doorstep and further at a time where We the People have to deal with very big economic storms now begining to really hurt us as all as well (except of course for the elites and the corporations they serve).

Also, the lesson and benefits of individual benevolence as responsible citizens is lost to the immigrants as government hands this over at no cost to the immigrant. The elites have cheapened our citizenship and access to the best opporuntity for the good life on earth at the expense of the Americans tax-payer. It’s communism at it’s core, it’s evil and it will stop one way or the other.


104 posted on 06/09/2007 9:11:02 AM PDT by quant5
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To: Iwo Jima

It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.


105 posted on 06/09/2007 9:11:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Borax Queen
The globalist plans have been in place for a long time (100 years or so),

That long? Theres no way to turn it back now.

106 posted on 06/09/2007 9:12:29 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: quant5

Good post. Thanks.


107 posted on 06/09/2007 9:16:35 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: beckysueb

Thanks. Christ kept trying to tell me all these things but my pride got in the way. Now that I submitted to His will which is the salvation physically and eternally of the specific of man, I just follow His example.

His example of humility as a civil servant as a business leader and husband serves me very well on a day to day basis also. I live a blessed and proteced life free from fear.

The example Christ taught us on earth through the tesitmony of the Gospel principles of proper treatment of others for such peace and tranquility on earth. Such adoption of the principles of sacrificing one’s self to save others in every way over one’s self (the example of Christ and the eternal reward for doing such) will make heaven on earth. Christ compared us to fruit. For Him, He keeps and protects the good fruit and throws the rest into the fire as waste. When I read the bible God and Christ grieve however when we reject life and choose the furnace. That is true love.

His Kingdom is coming but first the elites get their way and the new world order under the evil one becomes a reality. That we will fight this not on a national level but on a global scale. The end result is 1/3 of mankind dead through war and the after effects of the destruction of society as a whole.

This doesn’t have to happen but it likely will. Prophecy is prediction based on trillions of variables such as the human DNA which controls up to 50% of your behavior at the moment of conception. That’s why God says He knows you before you were born.

Weather forecasting is an example of prophecy. Do you know that man has just created the theory for Quantum physics computing? Within a few short decades we will have the computing power to predict billions of variables about the weather instantly and predict it 50 years out with 99% accuracy. But human behavior is not like the weather now is it?

We can teach proper human behavior at this stage of mankind to others as Christ taught us, unlike the weather which man cannot control (at least yet). But the odds are against following Christ’s teachings and Christ Himself to avoid WWIII.

Why? He tells us but we don’t listen, so our odds are like the weather meaning 99% chance (prediction based on variables) mankind fails at creating peace on earth and instead, we get correction through global war and then Christ Himself rules over earth instead of man.


108 posted on 06/09/2007 9:30:58 AM PDT by quant5
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To: quant5

I agree.


109 posted on 06/09/2007 9:37:59 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: beckysueb
I wonder how they handled it when they added all those states and terrotories and such

There is a process. Are you a US citizen? Have you studied your constitutional government?

Were there Mexicans living in New Mexico and California and those other states we won in the Mexican War?

Yes.

If so, how did we handle the situation of a whole bunch of new citizens?

They had to surrender to the United States, then follow the process of becoming citizens with cultural assimilation and oaths of loyalty, or they could leave.

All those shanty Irish and Italians and Germans, etc. I wonder if the citizens of America were upset then, too

Again, are you a US citizen? Have you read the history of the founding of this country and who the founders were?

I just wondered how our ancestors felt when they thought they were facing the same situation.

They never had to face this situation, but if they did, I am sure they would have been righteously angry (not having been subjected to 'anger management' by the globalist social engineers). There were never such traitors in our government then, as there are now. And they were brave men in those days, they did not fear removing traitors from power, because the alternative was much worse than any penalty they might pay. Read about Benedict Arnold and Sgt. Major John Champe.

Also see Patrick Henry's biography-- he made a very famous quote that has to do with liberty.
110 posted on 06/09/2007 9:41:13 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: ChessExpert
Yes, the immigration bill was just the first probe on a wide front. Now they sense they've stirred up an ant heap so their future tactics will be more subtle and misleading. Expect chunks of the failed bill to show up disguised, piece by piece, in other legislation.

The only solution is to throw the bastards out. But finding replacements who'll respect the wishes of the voters is a different matter. American politicians are for sale to the highest bidder -- even enemy bidders as Chinese involvement in the Clinton administration proved beyond doubt. And that's not the first and only example. Unfortunately, I fear Freed Reed was right when he wrote of the American people:

"Finally, people do not want freedom. They want comfort, two hundred channels on the cable, sex, drugs, rock-and-roll, an easy job and an SUV. No country with really elaborate home-theater has ever risen in revolt. An awful lot of people secretly like being told what to do. We would probably be happier with a king."

111 posted on 06/09/2007 9:55:29 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: beckysueb

“Really? How interesting! How would that work?”

First off, you have to understand what consciesness is. Conciessness or what some bible writers called ‘spirit’ is actually energy or even more simply - electricity. Most of your brain sends electronic impulses to control motor function of the body and controls the carnal impulses such as food and sex drive.

But the part that saves memories, your personality itself and attempts to process bigger things beyond the flesh is the subconciense. That is where dreams are also created and this function is to try and process what the concience mind cannot. All of the subconsience electricity and data can be theoretically transferred anywhere it can be stored as an indefinate individual personality. The fleshly matter is not necessary at this point. In fact we are very limited, in our physical form that is far more limited then existing as energy.

The Gospel writers witnessed Christ’s transformation into light itself in front of His apostles. Moses spoke directly to God and was told to turn his back when the form of God (immense energy) passed nearby so he wouldn’t be killed. I could into a few other examples but it shouldn’t be any real surprise about the ressurection of Christ back to His true form when He died on the cross.

Even for athiests, ponder that our universe is 14 billion years old. The best and brightest scientists speculate their are at least one trillion possible planets that could support life in our universe. Would it be a stretch to consider that other intelligent life was hear many billions of years before mankind and harnassed such understanding of conciesness as we humans have just become aware of? Well I am of the believing kind that God set-up this universe through the big-bang, or Einstein’s proven equation E=MC2 or that one part energy can be converted to two parts matter and vice-versa.

Based on this, going to heaven or joining Christ there would be very simple for such powerful, benelovent beings who have had eternity to creating and storing personalities or consciessness.

Now onto the second part which is accelerating this conciessness faster then the speed of light. Forget star trek, Einstein told us through math that it would take all the energy in the universe to accelerate matter even to the speed of light. However, again through math and physics theorized that light could be accelerated many many times faster then it’s inherent speed of 186,000 miles per second. Science recently proved this theory when man accelerated a proton several times the speed of light. It took a massive building with a ton of energy to do this. But what happened when we did this? The accelerated proton actually appeared in two places at once! If we inserted our conciessness onto a proton as the storage mechanism we could theoritcally acclerate ourselves thousands of times the speed of light meaning we could go from one end of the entire universe to the other in seconds. I think we are a century away from being able to do all this, as empirical fact tells me this can be done now, but I may be off on how long it takes for man to do such a feat. Guess we’ll find out...


112 posted on 06/09/2007 9:56:06 AM PDT by quant5
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To: Lloyd227

“The people pushing this agenda of a North American Union have absolutely no intention of preserving the 1st and 2nd amendments along the way.... things are linked sometimes and in this case, the merger with Canada and Mexico will be linked with the disolution of whatever is left of our original constitution.

and just in case we citizens don’t happen to agree, it’s in their interest to just open the borders wide and watch our nation be over run anyway....”

Exactly the 30 million new Mexican immigrants won’t be educated and easily manipulated to vote in elites who in turn push further for this reality to occur. Devious, almost satanic thought process. Can it all be so directly conciense do you think, or is other more sub-consciense influences be at work. Perhaps that is what Christ meant when He said the devil misleads the entire inhabited earth? Not preaching on your comment, actually asking a question.


113 posted on 06/09/2007 10:02:46 AM PDT by quant5
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To: hedgetrimmer

Interesting. I am learning so much in this thread. By the way, yes, I am a US citizen. Born here to German/French Canadian ancestors. I know. Ewwwww! LOL


114 posted on 06/09/2007 10:05:19 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

I don’t know how they plan to handle several million disgruntled armed citizens.

Control the ammo.

You can have all the guns in the world, but if you don’t have the ammo.............well!


115 posted on 06/09/2007 10:26:22 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: quant5
"Can it all be so directly conciense do you think"

Yes, I believe it's intentional, it's directed and it's well planned.

I also believe the people behind these actions do not consider themselves evil at all. They are sincere in their belief that this is what is best for all of humankind, they believe quaint ideas like the United States experiment have served their purposes and that it's time to help move things along toward that more global arrangement that will lift all of mankind up by their own bootstraps.

They are so wrong, but the important thing is to understand their plans and to understand that they believe what they are doing is for the greater good and that because of this "good" they're doing, these plans can span multiple generations and are very unlike the type of selfish evil a man might push for his own benefit.

These "good" plans are far more difficult to stop because of that inate and sincere belief the perpetuators have.

Just remember that sincereness is no guarantee of truth.

Cheers,
Lloyd

116 posted on 06/09/2007 11:28:48 AM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: RightWhale

FR continues to become anti-GOP, and pro-kook.

We need a chemtrail thread.


117 posted on 06/09/2007 11:33:49 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

That’s true. However, there are no chemtrails here in Alaska, and believe me I check every day. :)


118 posted on 06/09/2007 11:36:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Dog Gone
"FR continues to become anti-GOP, and pro-kook."

I would respectfully debate that point and suggest that the GOP or at least many influential members of the GOP have sold us down the river to "globalization" and some of the people at FR are only just now becoming aware of how far down this road they'd like to take us.

The GOP may still be better than that other rediculous alternative, but the GOP that embraces this North American Union concept (whether they label it such or not) has become rather dangerous to the voting public that just does what they're told and never questions where this is all headed.

119 posted on 06/09/2007 11:45:10 AM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: Lloyd227
...they believe quaint ideas like the United States experiment have served their purposes and that it's time to help move things along toward that more global arrangement that will lift all of mankind up by their own bootstraps.

That is a VERY hard thing for many to get their minds wrapped around but it is, never-the-less, true IMHO.

120 posted on 06/09/2007 11:52:46 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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