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Police: Woman dragged to death under minivan
CNN.COM ^ | June 4, 2007

Posted on 06/04/2007 4:08:57 PM PDT by Wolfie

Police: Woman dragged to death under minivan

FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida (AP) -- A woman trying to stop a motorist from fleeing after a collision was dragged for several miles to her death under the man's minivan, officials said Monday.

Authorities said they were still searching for the minivan's driver.

Sandra Hall was in a Cadillac that was struck by the minivan Sunday night, Broward County sheriff's officials said.

The minivan was driven away with the Cadillac in pursuit, and when both vehicles were stopped in traffic Hall got out and stood in front of the minivan, authorities said.

The minivan struck Hall, who became lodged underneath the moving vehicle, officials said.

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KEYWORDS: immigration; naturalization; roadrage; uscis
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To: Orange1998

Thanks, I appreciate it greatly!


41 posted on 06/04/2007 9:02:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

It isn’t like I haven’t done some amazingly stupid things too, especially when I was younger, but I can’t recall ever being tempted to do something verging on suicidal like this. She was a mature woman, not some young person with a feelings of immortality.


42 posted on 06/04/2007 9:03:15 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: penowa

Anger and adreneline can make one heck of a stupid coctail. Do I ever know it.....


43 posted on 06/04/2007 9:06:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: NRA2BFree

When are ya’ll gonna GET IT?

We are living in a Global community.

USA is no longer.

I miss Pat Buchanan and Alan Keyes.

Ya’ll remind me of those still wanting all stores closed on Sunday.

Wake the heck up and prepare for living in hell Globally.

/rant


44 posted on 06/04/2007 9:49:37 PM PDT by Global2010 ( We need a Road to the White House Ping List Please Help)
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To: penowa
That’s begging for something bad to happen and this poor lady sure got what she asked for.

So. . .Abdelaziz Hamze was just an accomodating motorist?

The decisions made here surely not good ones; but this woman was, albeit in foolish fashion; asking. . .imagining only for a Justice to be served. Nothing more. Could she have imagined the barbaric response of this man; then this story would have a different ending.

Also think this cannot just be dismissed as 'road rage'. The response of AHamze, sounds much more more like 'fear and flight'. . .

Surely something more going on with the ROP perp here. . .illegal? 'Troublesome friends/connections?' Recent flight school applicant? What?

Will we hear the details of this man who considered 'barbarity' a choice? ('Assume' they are checking this out in most thorough fashion; and no doubt, his CAIR lawyer is already on the case.)

A bloody trail; a horrible death; not deserved by any measusre; and the torturer/killer; almost got away. . .

45 posted on 06/05/2007 12:12:29 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: stinkerpot65
Religion of peace/illegal alien alert.

Perhaps this mode of 'death for Infidels' found on U.S. highways. . .will be added to Osama's Torture Book. . .maybe already there.

46 posted on 06/05/2007 12:17:13 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: metmom
I hope they catch the guy and hang him high.

If only. . . His CAIR lawyer will have him out before Paris shouts 'free at last'. (But we can hope for better and for sure.)

47 posted on 06/05/2007 12:21:12 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: HangnJudge
From your link:

"The undercarriage of the van carries blood, gristle, and other body parts," Jenne said, "making it clear that the body, or a body, was there."

Gross...

puke

48 posted on 06/05/2007 12:22:40 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: Yehuda; dennisw; Alouette; Lijahsbubbe

Perp = Abdelaziz Hamze

The victim stood in front of a van driven by a member of the religion of peace. What on earth for???! The bloodthirsty perp apparently had no intention of resisting the urge to main, torture, and kill.


49 posted on 06/05/2007 1:15:02 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: hole_n_one

Not as newsworthy as the size of Fred Thompson’s wife’s rack, I suppose.


50 posted on 06/05/2007 4:54:02 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: cricket
Surely something more going on with the ROP perp here.

What/who was in the van with Hamze might be key here.

I don't have much hope of learning much about any possible ulterior motive. Sheriff Ken Jenne couldn't run to the mike fast enough to praise the South Florida muslim community, and defend the muslim proselytizing in prisons, when Jose Padilla's ties to this area made headlines.

In this case, Jenne must have used the term "road rage" 50 times in his initial press conference, so "road rage" it will be.

51 posted on 06/05/2007 4:59:30 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad
. . . don't have much hope of learning much. . . Sheriff Ken Jenne couldn't run to the mike fast enough to praise the South Florida muslim community, and defend the muslim proselytizing in prisons, when Jose Padilla's ties to this area made headlines. In this case, Jenne must have used the term "road rage" 50 times in his initial press conference, so "road rage" it will be.

All the more pathetic here. . .and yes; perehaps there was more to the story; inside the van; beyond Hamze himself. Certainly, something, more than 'road rage' had this man on the run; despite authorities 'analysis' if not insistance - as per Jenne's. 'Fear' seems far more the driving MO here - so to speak.

Am wondering had Hamze made it out of here - and he almost did - would the public have ever known - been alerted - as to who this perp was?

Whole thing, more than unsettling; and do hope FBI is going beyond the fringe here. . .

52 posted on 06/05/2007 5:43:52 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: cricket
Certainly, something, more than 'road rage' had this man on the run; despite authorities 'analysis' if not insistance

OTOH, if you consider the relative worthlessness of women to the Islamic mind, and their dirty little secret of ingrained cultural prejudice towards blacks, what the reporter on a local TV station referred to as the woman "draping herself" over the front of the van in an enraged effort to stop Hamze might have been trigger enough for this brutal murder.

At any rate, it should be very interesting to watch the BSO, and the local news media, try to put a lid on any animosity that might result between the two minority groups involved -- groups they regularly fawn over with great "cultural sensitivity." If Hamze or any of his associates/family don't show up in a federal database -- or even if they do -- the BSO will want to turn off the spotlight on this one ASAP.

53 posted on 06/05/2007 9:31:31 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Travis McGee
"Anger and adreneline can make one heck of a stupid coctail."

True, but a lot less associated with females than males.

54 posted on 06/05/2007 10:31:54 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: cricket
"The decisions made here surely not good ones; but this woman was, albeit in foolish fashion; asking. . .imagining only for a Justice to be served."

If that's what she was doing, then she is just another nominee for the Darwin Award.

55 posted on 06/05/2007 10:38:45 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: penowa
If that's what she was doing, then she is just another nominee for the Darwin Award.

Well, you are right; and perhaps she actually deserved to win the award; given that she climbed up on hood (or however she got there. . .) and screamed: 'you ain't going nowhere' to the perp-psychopath.

Perhaps she had more to drink than realized. . .but she wasn't 'smokin crack'. . .she thought that Right was on her side; and still think; no matter her circumstance; her mistake(s). . .ok. . .'stupidity'. . . she did not deserve to die - or rather be dragged to her death by the likes of this ignorant perp. . .who probably just finished his last flying lesson. . .

Which if even close by conjecture; then who knows. . .this woman's ignorance may have served us all; perhaps. . .;^)

56 posted on 06/05/2007 2:23:09 PM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: browardchad
OTOH, if you consider the relative worthlessness of women to the Islamic mind, and their dirty little secret of ingrained cultural prejudice towards blacks, what the reporter on a local TV station referred to as the woman "draping herself" over the front of the van in an enraged effort to stop Hamze might have been trigger enough for this brutal murder.

True. . .and considered that the 'respect quotient' for women; surely made this all easier; no doubt. But he was nasty from the beginning; tried to get away. They followed. . .And yes, again; could have been 'racial' motivations here; but could well be more to this man's history. He 'profiles' well. . .

57 posted on 06/05/2007 2:30:02 PM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: HangnJudge; All

I hope they fully investigate this person and whether there are any possible ties to terrorists. His actions sure seem over the top for a simple hit and run accident with minor damage to this other person’s vehicle and no injuries.


58 posted on 06/05/2007 2:33:07 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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