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The End of National Currency (long article)
Council on Foreign Relations ^ | May/June 2007 | Benn Steil

Posted on 05/29/2007 4:06:42 PM PDT by processing please hold

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To: Freedom4US
No offense taken. The first coinage from the US mint was issued in 1792. The Guidebook of United States Coins (Yeoman, 1997) states that there were some dollar-sized "Continental Currency" coins minted in pewter, brass, and silver. It is not known who manufactured the coins.

No prices are offered for one variety of silver coin (which suggests that none are known), only one price is presented ($95,000 for an example in fine condition) for the other variety of silver coin, which suggests that the copies that are known are all in fine condition. However many were minted, it appears that very few exist today.

By contrast, a 1794 silver dollar (the first issued by the US mint) in fine condition is worth $16,000; there were a total of 1,758 1794 silver dollars minted. There were 160,295 minted in 1795; an example in fine condition was worth $1200-1500.

61 posted on 05/29/2007 8:23:28 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: Calpernia

Fats Kennedy and the Capitol Hill Gang!


62 posted on 05/29/2007 8:24:29 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Calpernia
I finished reading your links, thanks.

Suffice it to say, go Hunter! lol

63 posted on 05/29/2007 8:24:54 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

Hunter Bump!


64 posted on 05/29/2007 8:27:40 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: K-oneTexas
I’m hoping some of that gang gets culled as these Archives unfold:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1833916/posts

65 posted on 05/29/2007 8:28:57 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

;-)


66 posted on 05/29/2007 8:38:17 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Calpernia

Hey, I’m reading along here, interesting thread. I’ve done a little Forex trading here and there, and I know a little about the nature of currency.

Here’s a site that will freak you out, especially as it relates to the international banking system: http://www.augustreview.com/index.php


67 posted on 05/29/2007 8:49:52 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I would rather vote for Lindsay Lohan than Lindsey Graham.)
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To: Calpernia

a more precise link: http://www.augustreview.com/c/global_banking/


68 posted on 05/29/2007 8:53:13 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I would rather vote for Lindsay Lohan than Lindsey Graham.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks. I will read that tomorrow. Yours are posts I follow.


69 posted on 05/29/2007 8:56:26 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Wasn’t the article you quote published today?


70 posted on 05/29/2007 8:59:55 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

I searched in google. I got one hit and that was the quote from the hit. It was reference in your Hugo article.


71 posted on 05/29/2007 9:06:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ovrtaxt
From the link you posted.

Regional and Global Currencies: SDR's, Euros and Ameros

There is no doubt that the BIS is moving the world toward regional currencies and ultimately, a global currency. The global currency could well be an evolution of the SDR, and may explain why the BIS recently adopted the SDR as its primary reserve currency.

The Brandt Equation, 21st Century Blueprint for the New Global Economy notes, for instance, that Since the SDR is the world's only means of meeting international payments that has been authorized through international contract, "The SDR therefore represents a clear first step towards a stable and permanent international currency"22 [bold emphasis added]

As to regional currencies, the BIS has already been hugely successful in launching the euro in Europe. Armed with new technical and social know-how, the BIS' next logical step is to focus on America and Asia.

For instance, according to BIS Papers No. 17, Regional currency areas and the use of foreign currencies, "Canada, Mexico and the United States are members of the trade group NAFTA. Given the high proportion of Canada and Mexico’s trade with the United States, a NAFTA dollar or “Amero” has been proposed by some Canadian academics such as Grubel (1999). See also Beine and Coulombe (2002) and Robson and Laidler (2002)."23

Assuming that NAFTA permanently identifies Canada, the U.S. and Mexico as one trading block, then North America will look like the European Union and the Amero will function like the Euro. All of the work put into the SDR would be perfectly preserved by simply substituting the Amero for the U.S. dollar when they choose to bring the Amero to ascendancy over the dollar.

For those American readers who do not grasp the significance of the adoption of the euro by European Union countries, consider how one American globalist describes it.

C. Fred Bergsten is a prominent and core Trilateral Commission member and head of the Institute for International Economics. On January 3, 1999, Bergsten wrote in the Washington Post

"The adoption of a common currency is by far the boldest chapter of European integration. Money traditionally has been an integral element of national sovereignty ...and the decision by Germany and France to give up their mark and franc ...represents the most dramatic voluntary surrender of sovereignty in recorded history. The European Central Bank that will manage the euro is a truly supranational institution".24 [bold emphasis added]

Bergsten will have to rephrase this when the U.S. gives up the dollar for the amero -- that will become the most dramatic voluntary surrender of sovereignty in recorded history!

We've already been sold out.

72 posted on 05/29/2007 9:08:38 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Calpernia
What happened to the gold and silver?

In what sense? Are you asking why we no longer use gold and silver as currency? Or are you asking what the government did with the gold and silver it possessed?

ML/NJ

73 posted on 05/30/2007 3:49:33 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: DeaconBenjamin2
I trust you know that the US minted a "gold dollar" from 1849-1889. Not a "tenth eagle," a gold dollar.

This is true, but it is really a distinction without a difference. The history I use (Vieira's Pieces of Eight) indicates that, "The draftsmen of the Coinage Act of 1849 were careful, therefore, to refer to the 'gold dollar' not as a dollar or the dollar, but as 'be[ing] of the value of one dollar.'" (Vieira's emphasis)

ML/NJ

74 posted on 05/30/2007 4:10:55 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

You have alot better background on the gold/silver usage than I do. I thought you would know what the government did with it.


75 posted on 05/30/2007 4:27:55 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: processing please hold

Sucks, doesn’t it?


76 posted on 05/30/2007 4:59:25 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (I would rather vote for Lindsay Lohan than Lindsey Graham.)
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To: Calpernia
The Treasury produces a report about the gold it owns. The most recent one I could find is here. Note that the treasury values its gold at $42.2222 for some strange reason. Some skeptics say that much of the gold is missing or gone, but I have no reason to believe that these reports are fraudulent. I could not find a similar report concerning silver.

ML/NJ

77 posted on 05/30/2007 6:37:31 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj; processing please hold

Thank you ML!


78 posted on 05/30/2007 6:42:28 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ovrtaxt
Sucks, doesn’t it?

The big one.

79 posted on 05/30/2007 7:17:56 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold; Calpernia
Both excellent links, Cal.

pph, Paul's articles should be read and re-read until every thought becomes crystal clear. Freepmail me if you are still having a mind block on this. The essential truth here is that faith these days means that if you don't honor the dollar in exchange for your products, your products may be stolen from you in other ways -- perhaps militarily.

No need to conquer a nation to capture its resources anymore. Just force them to accept the value you have established for your dollar even though they have the right to accept another's currency which has more value.

FRN's are a substitute for war and are backed by military might.

The battle today seems to be over which nation or block of nations can print prettier reserve notes.

80 posted on 05/30/2007 7:25:28 AM PDT by Eastbound
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