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Vanity: How manny deportations
My questioning mind | 7/25/2007 | me

Posted on 05/25/2007 8:09:41 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy

I have been discussing the amnesty bill with several people ancd the question I keep getting is how I expect to deport 12 million illegals.

So I have been trying without luck to get a reference for how many have been deported over the last few years.

A good source I could cite with certainty should help a great deal.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; deportation; immigrantlist; immigration

1 posted on 05/25/2007 8:09:44 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: SlapHappyPappy

That is a “trick” question, because if we enforced the employer sanctions on every one that hires an illegal soon enough they would hire US citizens or legal immigrants and the Mexicans would go home themselves .


2 posted on 05/25/2007 8:13:26 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: SlapHappyPappy
"Hey, man!"


3 posted on 05/25/2007 8:16:31 AM PDT by jdm
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To: SlapHappyPappy

4 posted on 05/25/2007 8:23:37 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: ears_to_hear

What I am trying to do is prove to them that, yes, it is possible to deport them all. The argument seems to be that it can’t be done and it seems to me that, if you greatly reduce the influx, you can deport those currently here.


5 posted on 05/25/2007 8:30:12 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: ears_to_hear
Not a trick question at all! SlapHappyPappy is asking a very good question. To narrow it down lets just ask, how many illegal aliens were deported in the last 5 years? Where can these statistics be found?

But a better question would be how many illegal aliens were caught and then released then skipped out on their deportation hearing? There should be an active arrest on sight warrant for each of them ... arrest on sight ... jail time ... then deport ... with no hope of ever being allowed into this country legally! That is why we need the WALL!

6 posted on 05/25/2007 8:46:27 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Exactly. What I am trying to do is show roughly how long it would take to actually deport those here illegally IF we stopped their return.

Even if we catch the same guy 4 time in a year, for example, that would count 4 times. But if you stop the influx now instead of catching Guy X 4 times, we catch him once and 3 others as well.

I want a response to those who say it is just not practical to deport 12 million people.


7 posted on 05/25/2007 8:51:43 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: SlapHappyPappy
It would be self deportation.

If you can’t get a job and can’t earn a living or you aren’t eligible for unemployment, what do you do? You move to where you can make a living.

That would be back to their country of origin. Hondurans aren’t allowed to work in Mexico so the would move back to Honduras, Guatemalans would go back to Guatemala, Mexicans back to Mexico, Pakistanis back to Pakistan.

See how it would work?

8 posted on 05/25/2007 8:57:01 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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If you can’t find ‘em, how do you know there are 12 million ?

that 12 million number has been etched in stone for the last 3 years, so does that mean we’ve completely shut down the border ?

We should rename the Eisenhower plan “Operation Adios” and give volunteers long bambo poles, like in Planet of the Apes...then start beating the brush to flush ‘em out. (yes, this part is sarcastic...kind of)

9 posted on 05/25/2007 9:17:48 AM PDT by stylin19a (It's easier to get up at 6:00 AM to play golf than at 10:00 to mow the yard)
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To: SlapHappyPappy
Here are a coule of statistics from the 2000 Census.

In fiscal 1999, the Immigration and Naturalization Service and other agencies intercepted at or near the border and deported approximately 1.6 million people trying to enter the country illegally or found ineligible for entry. But once illegal aliens get past the border, enforcement of U.S. immigration laws virtually stops. In 1999, the INS managed to deport only 72,000 illegal aliens who were willing to leave .voluntarily, and another 47,000, who left involuntarily after proceedings. That total, 119,000, is only about 1.08% of the total number of illegals that Northeastern University estimated are now living in the United States.

These statistics may not help your argument much.

10 posted on 05/25/2007 9:23:30 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: stylin19a

Actually you don’t have to find each and every one of them individually. Just find the employers!


11 posted on 05/25/2007 9:27:49 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

But, with proper border controls, would we be able to focus more efforts on the people already here is what I wonder.


12 posted on 05/25/2007 9:42:00 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: B4Ranch

That I can understand.

Now, how many additional officers would we need to enforce the employment laws, or do we have enough and just aren’t doing it?


13 posted on 05/25/2007 9:44:55 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: SlapHappyPappy
The problem is the word "Comprehensive" in this legislation ... COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM ACT OF 2007

An all incompassing bill will never work or be funded properly ...

Anyone with half a brain knows the first step ... BUILDING THE WALL (a real wall ... concrete, 30-40 ft. high, total lenght of our Southern border). Fund it! Build it!

14 posted on 05/25/2007 10:18:31 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: SlapHappyPappy

>Now, how many additional officers would we need to enforce the employment laws, or do we have enough and just aren’t doing it?<

You got it, we aren’t doing it.
The question to ask doubters is;
How many children would dress up for Halloween if they didn’t get free candy?

Then ask;
How many foreigners would come to the US if there was no jobs and no social benefits, ie., schools, doctors, birth rights, subsidized housing, etc. waiting here for them?


15 posted on 05/25/2007 10:30:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: stylin19a

“like in Planet of the Apes..”

LOL! THEY CUT OUT HIS BRAIN!.....so he couldn’t babble in Spanish.


16 posted on 05/25/2007 11:16:17 AM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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