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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

What would we say if this were Clinton?

1 posted on 05/23/2007 7:00:52 AM PDT by cbkaty
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What would we say if this were Clinton?

It will be--eventually.

This sucks.

2 posted on 05/23/2007 7:02:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: cbkaty

It is something that we as a nation should be prepared for....but it needs the input of all three branches of government...if they are capable of discussing it.


3 posted on 05/23/2007 7:04:17 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: cbkaty

Bush has gotten to completely out of control, I’m starting to miss Clinton.


4 posted on 05/23/2007 7:05:19 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: cbkaty

Get ready for planet X.

lol


5 posted on 05/23/2007 7:06:37 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: cbkaty

ominous, if a democrat were to issue an EO along the likes of this, there would be howls of protest here.

I recall the latter days of the clinton presidency when this website was rife with rumours and handwringing over clintons “imminent” power grab...along with EOs, FEMA, and civilian detention centers

I know, don’t tell me, it is a different world now and the adults are now in charge, not to worry.


8 posted on 05/23/2007 7:12:46 AM PDT by fod (We are dancing on a volcano)
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“Corsi says the president can assume the power to direct any and all government and business activities until the emergency is declared over. “

Corsi has been so out on the edge recently, I can barely seem him. I don’t know if I would believe much unless a lot of reputable sources back him up.

I’m not saying he is lying or anything, some of the stuff I’m hearing would take a bit of research to confirm. Is he angling for Art Bell’s audience?

So many conspiracies and too little time...


9 posted on 05/23/2007 7:13:53 AM PDT by listenhillary (Democrats are sacrificing civilization for political power)
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To: cbkaty
"What would we say if this were Clinton?"

That is not how you should look at this.

We should say the same thing; NO!

10 posted on 05/23/2007 7:13:55 AM PDT by Designer
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To: cbkaty

Probably what the democrats are saying now.


11 posted on 05/23/2007 7:15:43 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: cbkaty

Laying the foundation for the Hildabeast?


12 posted on 05/23/2007 7:21:28 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: cbkaty; Millee; carlr; Maximus of Texas; EX52D; ontap; StephenTX; wallcrawlr; Auntbee; ...
Re: The order was signed May 9 without any announcement...

& The White House declined to comment on the order.

Hummmmmmmm... Indeed, I say, taking a break from the salt mines.

That is always the problem with what this congers up...

If we suddenly found the Islamic Terrorists/North Korea/Hugo Chavez/etc... had nuked DC and a few other cities and/or set off one 100 miles up over the Midwest, causing widespread loss of all power via the nuclear EMP, we would need fast, firm action.

While I do not always agree with W, I would follow his orders whether the Dems cried unconstitutional or not.

A Benign Dictatorship has always been touted as the most efficient form of government even when fully recognizing that absolute power corrupts absolutely...

In that light, I would not blindly obey anything I could not do in my own good conscious. Of course, a lot of what I consider in my own good conscious would make any liberal Democrat squirm, sweat and smell like 5 pounds of manure squeezed into a two pound sack.

That aside, authority like this is only as good as the authority applying it. With just about any Conservative Republican hereabouts, I could follow their lead. However, just about any and all the Dems (outside Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman) and RINOs I consider just a hair above the Islamic Terrorists/North Korea/Hugo Chavez/etc...

The main thing that bothers me about this is the parts I posted above. This was done not in secret, but it was done very, very low key. And neither the Demos nor the Drive By Media have jumped on it. That makes me sweat a little...

What do they know we don't know...

It makes me a little jumpy as I expect we are due another hit. We have not done all we can to either win this war or protect our borders and even with the best of intentions, we have to be 100 percent alert 100 percent of the time and be at the right place at the right time each and every time. Our foes have to be in the right place at the right time only once...

I live 56 miles south of Dallas and during the cold war I knew the prevailing winds would blow the fallout from a DFW nuke blast right down my alley. I am having that same fear once more...

Okay, now I must get back to sorting, packing and whatsnot...

14 posted on 05/23/2007 7:43:40 AM PDT by Bender2 (A 'Good Yankee' comes down to Texas, then goes back north. A 'Damn Yankee' stays... Damn it!)
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"Corsi says the president can assume the power to direct any and all government and business activities until the emergency is declared over."





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18 posted on 05/23/2007 8:04:57 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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Bush grants presidency extraordinary powers

They were not his to grant.. per the 10th amendment. All powers not granted to the government by the constitution reside with the people.

19 posted on 05/23/2007 8:07:38 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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This is old news.


23 posted on 05/23/2007 8:11:46 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
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I blame Katrina. Bush couldn’t legally send aid until the dumb-o-crat governot asked.

Then he was blamed for the slow response...

26 posted on 05/23/2007 8:15:37 AM PDT by null and void (Carter calling Bush worst president in U.S. history is like Michael Moore calling Ann Coulter fat...)
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"What would we say if this were Clinton?"

I've wondered that many times, especially when I see people on here defending crap like this, who would be raising total hell if Clinton would have done it. Just like ShadowAce said, soon it will be Clinton or some other authoritarian liberal. People should be mindful of the fact that all of these additional authoritarian powers the government is bringing to itself, and with the blessing of many FReepers, will someday be wielded by liberal democrats. THEN, those FReepers will suddenly have a problem with the government doing such things and it will be too late....

35 posted on 05/23/2007 8:50:03 AM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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This is very unusual . . . I’m beginning to suspect that the people saying we have already had our last national election are onto something. But that would mean I’m thinking like a believer in conspiracies. Oh, no! You mean to say that down deep we are all stupid ‘sheeple?’ Baaad Baaad. Really, really Baaad Baaad.


37 posted on 05/23/2007 9:09:09 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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The position of folks on this board is that it doesn't matter how terrible the president is as long as he is a republican.

He could eat a live baby at a press conference and posters on this board would applaud his "boldness" in the face of massive democratic criticism...

38 posted on 05/23/2007 10:17:46 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!)
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To: cbkaty

Why is this needed when we have the National Emergency Act? What in the Constitution gives the executive the authority to cut out the other branches, and to take over management of the states and of private business?

That emergency definition would have applied to the northeast electrical outage of a couple of years ago, as well as Katrina and other events.

I especially dislike the stealth and lack of comment on this — this is too important and dangerous to be done quietly and without debate.


41 posted on 05/23/2007 1:26:53 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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Part of this article clearly is not true since it was released by Tony Snows office and the full text is up on the web.

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nspd/nspd-51.htm

Maybe it is troubling but we need a different source. This one is simply not credible.


46 posted on 05/23/2007 4:08:06 PM PDT by gondramB (No man can be brave who thinks pain the greatest evil)
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Pro Life of the Republic PING.
50 posted on 05/23/2007 10:53:25 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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